wow thnks for the quick reply sophi,now im not confused anymore hehehe and thnks for the new info solicitor/lawyer is the same,though its not stated in the cheklist that these documents have to be certified but i guess it helps to shortend the pocess,may i ask if did you considerd your birth certificate have it sealed with a red ribbon at the DFA? i read some post that they did not considered this procedure and still got there visa,do you think these is necessary, for a read ribbon seal is expensive and time consuming.Im still in the process of gathering the documents for my fiancee visa aplication once everything is ok then i will submit to vfs.