Lessons In Hatred And Violence - CH 4 Tonight 8pm

[gWaPito]

Thanks for the message.i agree with all you said. Im unable to reply in the same manner This blessed phone wont let me. Would be good if I could give you my Email. I wonder if our leader could pass it on to you. No, the message was not from Apo! From the opposite camp.

[keithAngel]

This mostly apears to be a conversation amongst men which fits well with the cultural model over here when expats gather mostly they talk together and there wives and girlfriends do the same its the same in Portugal and I guess Spain these country,s are "Catholic" to but the difference between concious choice and cultural norms is huge.

from my own experience the amount of folk who made any kind of desision other than the default they where born into is tiny and if I had claimed to be a satanist it wouldnt have impacted on my experience here a jot although it might have been more dificult to arrange the Minister here than in the UK

Thanks Gwap for noticing and quoting the defence of the defensless bit Chivalry is still not dead and thats good

Does opposite camp have any thing to do with pink ties?

[gWaPito]

Hey Keith You can guess who just got out of bed. Pink ties and camp Very good. I read what you type Keith I like, amongst very few other on here, what you have to say. Im going home now. Would love to stay but, my warm bed awaits. Until tomorrow

[keithAngel]

Sleep well

[gWaPito]

I agree with you Keith Angel, who does need to watch the news when you only got to read the forum speaking of which, i haven't seen Ded in a while I hope he's OK. Its good to see one of the 'Big Guns'Les back all we need now is both Graham and Ded to make a return all good for balance and harmony

[les_taxi]

I agree with you Keith Angel, who does need to watch the news when you only got to read the forum speaking of which, i haven't seen Ded in a while I hope he's OK. Its good to see one of the 'Big Guns'Les back all we need now is both Graham and Ded to make a return all good for balance and harmony

Thanks gWaPito but i'm not" back" I just wanted to apologise to Jamie for lack of pop quiz.

[Arthur Little]

Thanks gWaPito but i'm not" back" I just wanted to apologise to Jamie for lack of pop quiz.

Why not Les? You've been a loyal and respected member of this forum for more than 4 years - nearly twice as long as ME even - your contributions are greatly valued by many here ... not least, for their good, down to earth common sense ... blended with unique Yorkshire humour ... as is the help and advice you so freely offer to those of us wrestling with computer problems. Hell ... the very fact that you wanted to update Jamie on what was happening - or not happening - with your pop quizz says it all!

Damn it, man ... don't throw all that away ... ! You'd miss US ... and WE'D certainly miss YOU!

[les_taxi]

Thanks Arthur thats a really nice reply.
My problem is once I've gone this far it's hard to turn back,and I have cut of my nose to spite my face in the past
I will just see how I feel in the next few days and keep quiet.
Thanks again for your support.

[stevewool]

we all say things sometimes , the great thing here is we understand, indeed arthur is correct , think about it les

[gWaPito]

I will 2nd that Arthur. I would also like to extend those sentiments to Ded and Graham48. These are the people what got me back using the forum. People with a bit of edge, with something worth while to say.

[Terpe]

Thanks Arthur thats a really nice reply.
My problem is once I've gone this far it's hard to turn back,and I have cut of my nose to spite my face in the past
I will just see how I feel in the next few days and keep quiet.
Thanks again for your support.

lestaxi1, We've never really had much communication. But I have always enjoyed your spirit. If there are times I don't agree, that's fine, that's life.
Carina always tells me about the spice of life.
Please reconsider. Yep sleep on it if you must. But I really understand how being part of this little on-line community can become something important in your life.
C'mon lestaxi1 you know it makes sense. This is cyberspace. After a few days all is back to normal.
THERE IS NO FACE TO LOSE.

I'm looking forward to the pop quiz mate

[Terpe]

Les, be a WINNER mate

I'll even come to Harrowgate

[imagine]

come back Les, theres much to be learnt from you,
from another yorkshire man

[gWaPito]

Enough of that, shall we get back on topic? Speaking of which, any sign of Apo today? Perhaps he got himself grounded .

[Terpe]

Enough of that, shall we get back on topic? Speaking of which, any sign of Apo today? Perhaps he got himself grounded .

And the current topic is ..................?
Personally, I want lestaxi1 to feel some support.

[Arthur Little]

I will 2nd that Arthur. I would also like to extend those sentiments to Ded and Graham48. These are the people what got me back using the forum. People with a bit of edge, with something worth while to say.

, Mark ... so would I !

[Arthur Little]

I really understand how being part of this little on-line community can become something important in your life.

I'm looking forward to the pop quiz mate

s Yes ... ME too ... on BOTH counts!!

[Arthur Little]

we all say things sometimes , the great thing here is we understand, indeed arthur is correct , think about it les

Indeed we do, Steve ... at the end of the day, we're ALL friends ... with so much in common ... even IF sometimes we agree to disagree!

come back Les, theres much to be learnt from you,
from another yorkshire man

Indeed there IS, Stewart ... we have a lot to learn from each other ... let's ALL do it together!

... so you "Three Musketeers" ... Les, Graham & Dedworth ... YOUR *FORUM NEEDS YOU!!!
*(With apologies to the late Lord Kitchener)

[gWaPito]

Terpe The topic is the thread title. Les knows my feelings on this Les has had my support all the way through. A lot of support is coming out the woodwork now I wonder where this support was when we (Graham Ded Les and myself) were being spoken to like kids because certain mods didnt like what we were saying? I put it to you You were all hiding under the bed sheets. Note Keith Angel's post 213 It would serve many people to read it. We were harming no one, just a group of guys putting over points of view. You want to show support now

[Terpe]

This mostly apears to be a conversation amongst men which fits well with the cultural model over here when expats gather mostly they talk together and there wives and girlfriends do the same its the same in Portugal and I guess Spain these country,s are "Catholic" to but the difference between concious choice and cultural norms is huge.

from my own experience the amount of folk who made any kind of desision other than the default they where born into is tiny and if I had claimed to be a satanist it wouldnt have impacted on my experience here a jot although it might have been more dificult to arrange the Minister here than in the UK

Thanks Gwap for noticing and quoting the defence of the defensless bit Chivalry is still not dead and thats good

Does opposite camp have any thing to do with pink ties?

Tell you what Keith, this is a very good point you hint at.
In principle it happens (Men and women) but................ my dear, it has absolutely nothing to do with "Catholic" culture.
Your assumption is a bit like saying 25% of road accidents are caused by drunk drivers,
so lets focus on the 75% caused by sober drivers.

[Ako Si Jamie]

I agree with gWaPito. People were just trying to make their point in a mature manner. Nothing nasty or malicious about it and for what it's worth, I've never heard either Les, Dedworth or Graham say anything along these lines in any thread. They may speak their mind and some over-sensitive members may take offence but it's a forum where people air their opinions. Fine, if there were hateful remarks and personal insults, that's understandable, but there weren't.

This is a pretty cool forum not like some forums where a lot of the members are a bunch of but I think it does help when the place has a few characters to give it an edge like gWaPito said!

That's my opinion anyway

[gWaPito]

Nice one Jamie, you stood firm as well Not quite sure what tangent Terpe as gone off on though All Keith stated was some facts, among then was most people keep to the beliefs they were born into. He mentioned a group of guys talking as expats would do. At the end of that sentence, he happened to mention that these, the countries he mentioned, are Catholic countries. He also said it wouldn't make a jot of difference.

[imagine]

i believe that if my opinion or belief in something is not everybodys viewpoint,if they see things differently,i understand accept i take no offence and i respect them for their honesty of their view,,
in the same light i hope my views will be treated the same way,
there isnt realy any good enough reason to fall out or feel bad about it, the important thing is that we can all speak our views/beleifs freely with no offence

[Terpe]

Nice one Jamie, you stood firm as well Not quite sure what tangent Terpe as gone off on though All Keith stated was some facts, among then was most people keep to the beliefs they were born into. He mentioned a group of guys talking as expats would do. At the end of that sentence, he happened to mention that these, the countries he mentioned, are Catholic countries. He also said it wouldn't make a jot of difference.

No need to worry to whatever tangent I go off on.
As long as I know.

[Terpe]

Terpe The topic is the thread title. Les knows my feelings on this Les has had my support all the way through. A lot of support is coming out the woodwork now I wonder where this support was when we (Graham Ded Les and myself) were being spoken to like kids

As far as I am concerned I contribute to those threads/posts I feel I can offer some value too, and that I have an interest in. My support for les is being made because I simply do not feel comfortable with les quitting the forum due to what I see as unjust reasons.
I don't feel comfortable with the phrase 'coming out of the woodwork'. But if you're comfortable OK

[aposhark]

And the current topic is ..................?
Personally, I want lestaxi1 to feel some support.

Don't go lestaxi1

Just because we don't always see eye to eye is one of those things.

You have your opinions and that is good.

You are very balanced as you post on so many other issues as well as politics and/or religion.

If I have offended you, it was not my intention. It is just that I have equally forthright views and I never was a wallflower, well, not many scousers are
It is the Irish blood in us

[gWaPito]

Im not worried Terpe Just curious as to what you men't. Guess we will just have to wait until Keith Angel gets online.

[les_taxi]

You have all made me feel really humble and I'm very touched by those of you who care

Of course I don't want to leave this fantastic forum is part of my life now but certain things I will argue til the day I die.

I notice there are messages of goodwill but not from a certain member( sorry now thats sorted)
But so be it but I will say now I'm not a racist but I am in favour of our brave soldiers and will always despise poppy burners and people who think that that is OK.
Regarding this thread I did feel a lack of support and was saddened that some people took it as trivial and made silly remarks that tainted the whole thread.

I'm not from the "dark side" and enjoy a laugh and let me explain why I tackle some of the more controversial subjects head on.

I am 100% patriotic and will never lie down when someone criticizes the armed forces,or the British way of life.

If the documentary had been about white supremacists preaching hate and bullying young children my response would have been the same.

You can understand my anger as being classed as the same people as the documentry showed

But very few people picked up on this and chose to chastise me and some others,dedworth,Graham,gwapito,jamie etc as being childish etc.

I have to say it but it appeared some of the mods never seemed to get the just of the thread either and looked at us as troublesome when all we wanted to do was agree with a documentary made by Muslims which we agreed with,that does not make any of us racist.

I feel we were treated badly and I guess that made things worse.

I totally agree with Keith when he points out that this argument puts people off especially newcomers and women he is 100% right

I'm not sure what the answer is to that maybe a thread entitled "read at your own risk as this may contain controversial material" and maybe make it not be available to access for newcomers to the site.

The other choice is to ban the controversial threads but that is a shame and basically we enter censorship on this forum which h is a shame.

I tend to wind Keith up a football,sometimes think I'm a better pc expert than maybe I am,I make cheeky remarks but that's who I am and I can't change.
If someone even Keith with his great knowledge of pcs which sometimes makes me feel like a newbie recommends something I will find an alternative just to challenge him
I can't help it he supports scouserpool and me man utd so i have to fight him

Some may say hmm Les never takes much about Filipino matters or his girlfriend-that is true and here is the reason

I totally love my girlfriend but as some of you know its a tough thing being in love with a Filipino and once we get closer to being together I will talk more but in the meantime it's hard and I throw myself into other subjects to take away the pain of not being with her so now you have your answer to anyone who ever wondered why on earth I'm on this forum.

I hope this explains a lot but I to want the other guys back on here,not to gang up on anyone but they deserve to be heard too and I miss Graham, and even Dedworth too

[KeithD]

...... and made silly remarks that tainted the whole thread..............

Can't be me I only post serious stuff

..... ever wondered why on earth I'm on this forum.

I often wonder why I'm on here

[imagine]

il drink to that lestaxi1