Lessons In Hatred And Violence - CH 4 Tonight 8pm

[les_taxi]

You have all made me feel really humble and I'm very touched by those of you who care

Of course I don't want to leave this fantastic forum is part of my life now but certain things I will argue til the day I die.

I notice there are messages of goodwill but not from a certain member( sorry now thats sorted)
But so be it but I will say now I'm not a racist but I am in favour of our brave soldiers and will always despise poppy burners and people who think that that is OK.
Regarding this thread I did feel a lack of support and was saddened that some people took it as trivial and made silly remarks that tainted the whole thread.

I'm not from the "dark side" and enjoy a laugh and let me explain why I tackle some of the more controversial subjects head on.

I am 100% patriotic and will never lie down when someone criticizes the armed forces,or the British way of life.

If the documentary had been about white supremacists preaching hate and bullying young children my response would have been the same.

You can understand my anger as being classed as the same people as the documentry showed

But very few people picked up on this and chose to chastise me and some others,dedworth,Graham,gwapito,jamie etc as being childish etc.

I have to say it but it appeared some of the mods never seemed to get the just of the thread either and looked at us as troublesome when all we wanted to do was agree with a documentary made by Muslims which we agreed with,that does not make any of us racist.

I feel we were treated badly and I guess that made things worse.

I totally agree with Keith when he points out that this argument puts people off especially newcomers and women he is 100% right

I'm not sure what the answer is to that maybe a thread entitled "read at your own risk as this may contain controversial material" and maybe make it not be available to access for newcomers to the site.

The other choice is to ban the controversial threads but that is a shame and basically we enter censorship on this forum which h is a shame.

I tend to wind Keith up a football,sometimes think I'm a better pc expert than maybe I am,I make cheeky remarks but that's who I am and I can't change.
If someone even Keith with his great knowledge of pcs which sometimes makes me feel like a newbie recommends something I will find an alternative just to challenge him
I can't help it he supports scouserpool and me man utd so i have to fight him

Some may say hmm Les never takes much about Filipino matters or his girlfriend-that is true and here is the reason

I totally love my girlfriend but as some of you know its a tough thing being in love with a Filipino and once we get closer to being together I will talk more but in the meantime it's hard and I throw myself into other subjects to take away the pain of not being with her so now you have your answer to anyone who ever wondered why on earth I'm on this forum.

I hope this explains a lot but I to want the other guys back on here,not to gang up on anyone but they deserve to be heard too and I miss Graham, and even Dedworth too

[KeithD]

...... and made silly remarks that tainted the whole thread..............

Can't be me I only post serious stuff

..... ever wondered why on earth I'm on this forum.

I often wonder why I'm on here

[les_taxi]

Can't be me I only post serious stuff



I often wonder why I'm on here

It takes your mind off football

[joebloggs]

It takes your mind off football

one reason to stay les, to laugh at dedworth and chelsea


tomoz is another day les, stick around

[gWaPito]

I was delivering in a well know west end store last night, I have been going there for years, the guys know me well. Most that work there that time of night are Muslim. I shared what was going on, on this thread. They said 'mark, its like us saying all white British are full time members of the national front, its too crazy for words. I mentioned about the parents, why dont they deal with the teachers, he said, mark They know what these schools are Thats why they send them there. He also said there is a good chance that the Muslim poster was a wind up.

[gWaPito]

Simon, its a thread Not a chat room. Like yourself and many others felt for some reason uneasy so, thought best to give it a wide berth. Unlike others who didnt like but still had to have a moan about it. Simon My wife is from the Phil, she was far from offended. Perhaps the program in question didnt do race relations a favour either. What Ded was high lighting was cruelty to children. For the life of me, I cant understand why a few found it distasteful. I know many posters and viewers didnt. Yes It was I who mentioned the rivers of blood but, many agreed. This is nothing what so ever to do with our wives. This is to do with people who refuse to be a part of British society, yet want all the benefits. You say Simon, all it is, is going round in circles, isn't it what its all about? Chewing the cud and all that? Doesn't the chat go around in circles in most of those threads? Nothing wrong in that Simon. Its what us men do. I, for one dont go on threads I dislike and pipe up the words 'this boring' then disappear. like you, you didnt like so you stayed away. Off Topic a wee bit. When the word Handwringer gets mentioned, it makes me smile, it reminds me of Les Dawson playing the washer women.

[Sim11UK]

Simon, its a thread Not a chat room. Like yourself and many others felt for some reason uneasy so, thought best to give it a wide berth. Unlike others who didnt like but still had to have a moan about it. Simon My wife is from the Phil, she was far from offended. Perhaps the program in question didnt do race relations a favour either. What Ded was high lighting was cruelty to children. For the life of me, I cant understand why a few found it distasteful. I know many posters and viewers didnt. Yes It was I who mentioned the rivers of blood but, many agreed. This is nothing what so ever to do with our wives. This is to do with people who refuse to be a part of British society, yet want all the benefits. You say Simon, all it is, is going round in circles, isn't it what its all about? Chewing the cud and all that? Doesn't the chat go around in circles in most of those threads? Nothing wrong in that Simon. Its what us men do. I, for one dont go on threads I dislike and pipe up the words 'this boring' then disappear. like you, you didnt like so you stayed away. Off Topic a wee bit. When the word Handwringer gets mentioned, it makes me smile, it reminds me of Les Dawson playing the washer women.

Gwap I know you are married to a Filipina, so am I...we are the converted, but this 'general theme' has racist undertones (no I'm not calling anyone here a racist)...You even said the same in another thread & then the next day backed down, saying you must have lost your sense of humour.

Immigration is a touchy subject in this country & I don't like putting fuel on the fire, with dominant threads like this...Remember there are many out there, who aren't as tolerant as us & would like to see zero immigration & are vocal about it.

[aposhark]

Simon, its a thread Not a chat room. Like yourself and many others felt for some reason uneasy so, thought best to give it a wide berth. Unlike others who didnt like but still had to have a moan about it. Simon My wife is from the Phil, she was far from offended. Perhaps the program in question didnt do race relations a favour either. What Ded was high lighting was cruelty to children. For the life of me, I cant understand why a few found it distasteful. I know many posters and viewers didnt. Yes It was I who mentioned the rivers of blood but, many agreed. This is nothing what so ever to do with our wives. This is to do with people who refuse to be a part of British society, yet want all the benefits. You say Simon, all it is, is going round in circles, isn't it what its all about? Chewing the cud and all that? Doesn't the chat go around in circles in most of those threads? Nothing wrong in that Simon. Its what us men do. I, for one dont go on threads I dislike and pipe up the words 'this boring' then disappear. like you, you didnt like so you stayed away. Off Topic a wee bit. When the word Handwringer gets mentioned, it makes me smile, it reminds me of Les Dawson playing the washer women.

No you didn't Gwap, it was lestaxi1 in post #5
It lost Powell his job back then and I still cannot understand how that phrase could be used after watching one TV programme.
I think if lestaxi1 was to go to work and say that phrase where his Asian co-workers are, his feet would not touch and he would be given his P45
There are very strict laws in our workplace that discipline people for comments that could hurt other people if someone was to say something like that.
Even on a forum like this, it does not help to post what everyone knows is a phrase that is racist in the extreme.

Being patriotic and supporting our soldiers is a totally different thing.
Even some soldiers wonder about the validity of our forces being in Afghanistan, as they did in Iraq.
There were marches all over the country trying to stop the war in Iraq, and they had no effect in the end.

Many of us have foreign wives and fiancees, where do people draw the line on racism?
Does this line stop at Asians? Does it include black people? What about Chinese? Racism should be kicked out in all its forms and innuendos.

I think Lestaxi1 and Dedworth should both have a good sit down and have a long think about their racist thoughts.
They both know that in public they will not be able to spout off, they would both be escorted out of the building.

Meanwhile the rest of the UK society is doing its best to stamp racism out.