Lessons In Hatred And Violence - CH 4 Tonight 8pm

[les_taxi]

Can't be me I only post serious stuff



I often wonder why I'm on here

It takes your mind off football

[joebloggs]

It takes your mind off football

one reason to stay les, to laugh at dedworth and chelsea


tomoz is another day les, stick around

[Sim11UK]

Les I often wondered why you post on here, because you never talk about the Philippines or your girlfriend, but I guess you've explained your reason, so I accept that.

What I personally object to are threads like this, with a common theme running through them & taking over the forum. There is an element of bullying & if anyone dares to challenge them, then they are shot down, called a handwringer, or told not to post, if they don't have anything intelligent to say.

That's why I wont bother getting involved, because I can't be going round in circles, it's a waste of my life, got better things to do.

I know this thread got blown out of proportion & yes I saw the first 10 mins of the programme & was appalled, but we ended up with 'Rivers of Blood' etc. This sits uncomfortably with me, seeing we are in mixed race relationships & offer immigration advice it makes the forum unfriendly, especially for our Filipino friends looking in here.

If you are staying then welcome back, if not c'est la vie

[gWaPito]

I was delivering in a well know west end store last night, I have been going there for years, the guys know me well. Most that work there that time of night are Muslim. I shared what was going on, on this thread. They said 'mark, its like us saying all white British are full time members of the national front, its too crazy for words. I mentioned about the parents, why dont they deal with the teachers, he said, mark They know what these schools are Thats why they send them there. He also said there is a good chance that the Muslim poster was a wind up.

[gWaPito]

Simon, its a thread Not a chat room. Like yourself and many others felt for some reason uneasy so, thought best to give it a wide berth. Unlike others who didnt like but still had to have a moan about it. Simon My wife is from the Phil, she was far from offended. Perhaps the program in question didnt do race relations a favour either. What Ded was high lighting was cruelty to children. For the life of me, I cant understand why a few found it distasteful. I know many posters and viewers didnt. Yes It was I who mentioned the rivers of blood but, many agreed. This is nothing what so ever to do with our wives. This is to do with people who refuse to be a part of British society, yet want all the benefits. You say Simon, all it is, is going round in circles, isn't it what its all about? Chewing the cud and all that? Doesn't the chat go around in circles in most of those threads? Nothing wrong in that Simon. Its what us men do. I, for one dont go on threads I dislike and pipe up the words 'this boring' then disappear. like you, you didnt like so you stayed away. Off Topic a wee bit. When the word Handwringer gets mentioned, it makes me smile, it reminds me of Les Dawson playing the washer women.

[Luv2Allah]

Assalaam Alaykum. More and more people turn to Islam after discovering the wonders of the faith. I understand how some here do not understand as their hearts are blackened and their minds closed. but it is willed by Allah to deliver his message to the world.

[fred]

Luv2Allah... You are obviously a troll with bad intentions and on the WRONG forum.. Change the record and speak in English or I`ll pull your cord...Remotely!
Cheers,
Fred.

[gWaPito]

I got a blackened toe nail, I wonder if thats got something to do with it? See you cats on Wednesday i hope the others are back by then. Oh Thanks for the rep, whoever gave me it. Xxx

[keithAngel]

Thanks for you comments Gwap I often find myself in a minority position but thats my choice no one ever said it would be easy or comfortable to be honest with myself. Its fairly easy to know if people are being interlectualy honest by there willingness to enter into open debate and address the points raised.

Deflextion,avoidance and childlike comments dont hide this for a moment.

Personaly on our multi-cultural forum I find it sad that we have so many posts on these kind of themes its great that abusive people will be uncovered and prosecuted for offences commited no matter who they are, Women with failed relationships being vilified no thanks,Celebrating remote controled drone deaths of unknown people I dont think so.

Feel free to post what you like/is permited but be sure I may time by time notice the trend and comment accordingly thats the freedoms my forebears fought for.

[Sim11UK]

Simon, its a thread Not a chat room. Like yourself and many others felt for some reason uneasy so, thought best to give it a wide berth. Unlike others who didnt like but still had to have a moan about it. Simon My wife is from the Phil, she was far from offended. Perhaps the program in question didnt do race relations a favour either. What Ded was high lighting was cruelty to children. For the life of me, I cant understand why a few found it distasteful. I know many posters and viewers didnt. Yes It was I who mentioned the rivers of blood but, many agreed. This is nothing what so ever to do with our wives. This is to do with people who refuse to be a part of British society, yet want all the benefits. You say Simon, all it is, is going round in circles, isn't it what its all about? Chewing the cud and all that? Doesn't the chat go around in circles in most of those threads? Nothing wrong in that Simon. Its what us men do. I, for one dont go on threads I dislike and pipe up the words 'this boring' then disappear. like you, you didnt like so you stayed away. Off Topic a wee bit. When the word Handwringer gets mentioned, it makes me smile, it reminds me of Les Dawson playing the washer women.

Gwap I know you are married to a Filipina, so am I...we are the converted, but this 'general theme' has racist undertones (no I'm not calling anyone here a racist)...You even said the same in another thread & then the next day backed down, saying you must have lost your sense of humour.

Immigration is a touchy subject in this country & I don't like putting fuel on the fire, with dominant threads like this...Remember there are many out there, who aren't as tolerant as us & would like to see zero immigration & are vocal about it.

[keithAngel]

good post Sim its tricky my personal preference would be not to see these kinds of threads like clockwork here on a multi-cultural forum but I still would defend the freedoms of others to do as they see fit wilst ocasionaly challenging their thinking

[aposhark]

Simon, its a thread Not a chat room. Like yourself and many others felt for some reason uneasy so, thought best to give it a wide berth. Unlike others who didnt like but still had to have a moan about it. Simon My wife is from the Phil, she was far from offended. Perhaps the program in question didnt do race relations a favour either. What Ded was high lighting was cruelty to children. For the life of me, I cant understand why a few found it distasteful. I know many posters and viewers didnt. Yes It was I who mentioned the rivers of blood but, many agreed. This is nothing what so ever to do with our wives. This is to do with people who refuse to be a part of British society, yet want all the benefits. You say Simon, all it is, is going round in circles, isn't it what its all about? Chewing the cud and all that? Doesn't the chat go around in circles in most of those threads? Nothing wrong in that Simon. Its what us men do. I, for one dont go on threads I dislike and pipe up the words 'this boring' then disappear. like you, you didnt like so you stayed away. Off Topic a wee bit. When the word Handwringer gets mentioned, it makes me smile, it reminds me of Les Dawson playing the washer women.

No you didn't Gwap, it was lestaxi1 in post #5
It lost Powell his job back then and I still cannot understand how that phrase could be used after watching one TV programme.
I think if lestaxi1 was to go to work and say that phrase where his Asian co-workers are, his feet would not touch and he would be given his P45
There are very strict laws in our workplace that discipline people for comments that could hurt other people if someone was to say something like that.
Even on a forum like this, it does not help to post what everyone knows is a phrase that is racist in the extreme.

Being patriotic and supporting our soldiers is a totally different thing.
Even some soldiers wonder about the validity of our forces being in Afghanistan, as they did in Iraq.
There were marches all over the country trying to stop the war in Iraq, and they had no effect in the end.

Many of us have foreign wives and fiancees, where do people draw the line on racism?
Does this line stop at Asians? Does it include black people? What about Chinese? Racism should be kicked out in all its forms and innuendos.

I think Lestaxi1 and Dedworth should both have a good sit down and have a long think about their racist thoughts.
They both know that in public they will not be able to spout off, they would both be escorted out of the building.

Meanwhile the rest of the UK society is doing its best to stamp racism out.

[KeithD]

multi-cultural forum

I believe this is a DUAL-CULTURE forum Brit-Phil

[joebloggs]

I believe this is a DUAL-CULTURE forum Brit-Phil

there are many europeans here to
Brit-Euro-Phil forum ? (also dont forget the few American and Canadians who come on here)

[fred]

Joe..Not sure about the Yanks?? Which ones in particular?

[Bluebirdjones]

Apo
You just can’t leave it alone can you ?
You’re like the woman who always wants the last word, the person who’ll never accept a valid, reasonable answer to an argument. It’s either you’re right….. or you’ll take your ball home with you.

I think Lestaxi1 and Dedworth should both have a good sit down and have a long think about their racist thoughts
Racist ?….NO.
Prepared to comment on how the failed political policy of multi-culturalism and uncheck migration has changed the fabric & make up of this society ? ….. YES.

…..showed that Labour aimed to use immigration not only for economic reasons but also to change the social make-up of the country.

……….Labour's accusation that opponents of immigration are racist has been dropped over the last two years as it has become clear that former Labour voters in party heartlands have been turning to the far right British National Party

[COLOR="deepskyblue"]…government documents released under a Freedom of Information claim…to ‘maximise the contribution’ of migrants to achieving the government’s ‘social objectives’. Strikingly, these discussions were kept as far away from the public as possible. The government adviser says there was ‘an unusual air of… secrecy’ in government discussions about immigration, and the internal document of 2000 was passed between ministers with ‘extreme reluctance’: ‘there was a paranoia about it reaching the media’ and causing concern amongst Labour’s ‘core white working-class vote’[/COLOR]

We have every right to be concerned and vocal.
This is/was political-social engineering imposed on an unsuspecting public by a political elite, determined to break the mould of British society, to crush the traditional British way of life, and to change the demography of political voting.

And now ? …… we reap what they’ve sown.

[KeithD]

BlueBird, numerous people have already said this thread is goinf round in circles and your comments just keep it doing that ..... and it appears YOU are the one wanting the last word

[Bluebirdjones]

I've commented once ..... not endless, repetative posts & arguments, constantly trying to prove that my view is the one & only "correct" one.

I've commented and responded to the posting by Aposhark, which was only 6hrs ago.

I'm therefore not resurrecting a dead topic (just the sake of self interest or trolling), nor am I determined to (or need to) have the last word.

[KeithD]

....nor am I determined to (or need to) have the last word.

....you just did agian!!!

[Bluebirdjones]

Wow ..... such humour, you'll have us rolling in the aisles


“He who has provoked the shaft of wit, cannot complain that he smarts from it.” - Samuel Johnson

[keithAngel]

there are many europeans here to
Brit-Euro-Phil forum ? (also dont forget the few American and Canadians who come on here)

Then theres the Visayans, wari-wari Tagologs Way sapiyan dong

[les_taxi]

Well here we go again,silly me thinking this thread was done all sorted and I went to work feeling good today
Come home and see that someone indeed cannot let it lie
Bluebirdjones comes to notice this and gets a rollicking for mentioning it.
How about words with the shark who can obviously not resist and has yet again implied the Dedworth and me are racists.
I could probably sue for libel so watch what you put in future
I will never agree with your views on this Aposhark so leave it at that,trying to bait me in does work as you can see well done your a big man!
By the way I am part owner of the largest Taxi firm in harrogate and am self employed so p45 aint going to happen mate,and just as a side note i dropped off one of my favourite local customers at the hairdressers earlier today an Indian woman with connections to the royal family,been picking her up for the last ten years.
So carry on Aposhark you are now looking foolish on here I can let this subject go I suggest you do too!
Come on Keith or one of the mods shut this bloody thread down please.

[keithAngel]

I'm looking forward to replying in full to the comments that I am a racist on here and I have a chip on my shoulder.

Back to work now so I can't reply til later tmrw but I'm ready for any challenge you throw at me.

Les I dont see why your complaining 6 days ago you were ready for any challenge

[les_taxi]

And so we continue endless loop.
Tell you what I've had enough,from getting nice comments last night to it all starting up again after I thought it had finished.

[KeithD]

It's a free speech forum Les .... and if someone says something wrong they are corrected by others, me, or they apologise. the phrase 'Rivers of blood' wasn't even mentioned in the speech that was earlier pointed out so no idea how it has a racist connection anyway! That phrase is something taken waaaaaay out of context . So if people are going to makes quotes/accusations/etc, ensure you get your facts right first otherwise you can make yourself look stupid

Said Gaddafi just said 'Rivers of Blood' in his talk last night.

RACISM

<LI itxtvisited="1">The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.<LI itxtvisited="1">Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

I have not read anything on this forum that shows anyone here to be a racist. If they were, they'd have been BANNED.

[stevewool]

indeed those that laugh last laugh the smallest , i think thats wrongdont i look a prat now

[KeithD]

......i look a prat now

.... and that's different from normal because....?????

[les_taxi]

It's a free speech forum Les .... and if someone says something wrong they are corrected by others, me, or they apologise. the phrase 'Rivers of blood' wasn't even mentioned in the speech that was earlier pointed out so no idea how it has a racist connection anyway! That phrase is something taken waaaaaay out of context . So if people are going to makes quotes/accusations/etc, ensure you get your facts right first otherwise you can make yourself look stupid

Said Gaddafi just said 'Rivers of Blood' in his talk last night.

RACISM

<LI itxtvisited="1">The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.<LI itxtvisited="1">Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

I have not read anything on this forum that shows anyone here to be a racist. If they were, they'd have been BANNED.

"I think Lestaxi1 and Dedworth should both have a good sit down and have a long think about their racist thoughts"
So that comment is ok then keith?

[KeithD]

I explained it all in my post, they just made themselves look stupid by using something out of context

[les_taxi]

I don't understand you at all Keith,I'm maintaining the peace and thought the thread was proving harmful to the site so after many nice requests for me to stay I was happy to let the thread die.
Then see it's all kicked off again as Aposhark can't let it die as pointed out by another member who you had a go at when it was his first post on the subject!
No word of any meaning to Aposhark reguarding dragging this on and on again,don't get it at all.
Is Aposhark immune from any criticism?
You don't see what I'm trying to do,stop this bickering and end this thread,you say it puts people off so i thought lets finish it.
Then you say free speech is OK well i could totally lay into Aposhark and make him look even more foolish but i thought better of it and assumed you would want closure.