There is no reward Fred only the knowledge that you are true to yourself.

If we stop trying then the one thing we can be sure of is that the forces of the manipulatable reactionary minority will be twisted against the long term interests of the majority of reasonable people.

Our problems with our politicians are another issue and a major one at that, as a young man I will freely admit that I was so clueless that I would not have known how to even begin to evaluate whether our politicians were acting for themselves or even paying lip service to the notion that we are all in this together, for the greater good and so on. I did have an emotional response to what was going on in the 80's though and not a good response I might say

It is probably even harder for the young folk today to get to grips with politics and as we all know there is great apathy when it comes to political debate in the UK these days.

We need to solve these kinds of problem first otherwise those who desire to see the end of our way of life have already won and it is only a matter of time before all the doom-sayers prophesy's come true.

Lets deal with the politics first, somehow. Simply reacting against the news headlines won't fix anything it only increases the polarisation in our country.

I'll PM you on your "two weeks" point, i wasn't aware :(

Alan, well I've met Alan, really good bloke and like me he is a victim of the system and that is a system that is not getting any better largely because of the perceived problems with our immigration policy that have encouraged tighter and tighter controls.

Relax friend Fred, you escaped I'm sorry to have resurrected some of the old demons.