TAIPEI: Taiwan on Friday executed four prisoners in the first death sentences to be carried out since 2005, the justice ministry said.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...053715/1/.html
TAIPEI: Taiwan on Friday executed four prisoners in the first death sentences to be carried out since 2005, the justice ministry said.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...053715/1/.html
Along with meating this sort of punishment and sorting out the ' money for nothing' welfare system this will solve the crisis we have.
Guys much to your chargrin you still live in a civilised country
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With 619 UK murders in 2010 (if that figure is correct) it's arguable whether a society which fails to have a deterrent which works, can be describes as 'civilised.
Of course to that figure one should add those who, but for a surgeons skill would also have died, and those who are permanently disabled. '
I want to know what dictionary Keith is using
In this case
From Merriam-Webster:
disquietude or distress of mind caused by humiliation, disappointment, or failure
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Just trying to counter the dumbing down of mail readers who only need a 40 word plus proper names vocabulary
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lets hope that none of them are found innocent
i have learnt to do what my wife says!
China just lines them up one bullet why waste resources
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Your still 5 times more likely to die in a trafic accident
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What's that got to do with it? Unless the traffic "accident" is caused by an inebriated hit-and-run motorist who mows down an child ... then scarpers - leaving his/her victim lying badly injured ... or [worse] ... *dead at the roadside! That's *MURDER ... although the driver (if caught) is likely be convicted of a lesser charge of manslaughter (at most) if the child dies.
What the criminals were executed for in China, amounted to cold-blooded killings in each of the cases reported here. And I have to say that - crimes of passion, gangland slayings, deaths arising from drunken rabbles and/or in acts of self defence apart - with John as regards the need for an ultimate deterrent ... whenever it can be proved beyond reasonable doubt that death occurred as a direct result of premeditated homicide.
China used to do it the right way - provide a bit of half time entertainment at the local football ground. Manacled condemned would be paraded round the touchline with placards around their necks detailing their crimes, then driven off in the back of a pick up to a corner of the carpark to have a bullet put through the back of their heads. Cheap & cheerful - it gets the deterrent message across to Joe Public
I dont think capital punishment is a deterent at all. Murders are still commited in countries with a death penalty. The fact is the UK has one of the lowest murder rates per head of population anywhere in the world. Of the 620 or so cases John referred to, I wonder how many of those were intergang related murders. TBH those sort of murders are doing us all a favor by removing the drug pushing scum from the earth. I'd be interested to know what the 'real' number of murders is (excluding rival drug killings and drive bys)?
Have you watched crimewatch lately the amount of innocent people that have been murdered for the sake of a few quid or there belongings some even tortured before they were murdered i agree there is a big problem with gang related murders but that doesn't alter the fact that capital punishment on the whole would have a big part in cutting down on these terrible crimes i mean what seems better 12yrs in prison or capital punishment it has to be the latter surely
No point wasting money on keeping scum like serial killers & paedophiles alive when it can be spent on more worthwhile causes.
Englishman.-
I really cannot believe what you are saying. If you think that the ones being killed 'deserved it' in some way (an incredible idea) then I cannot imagine how you can be against a legal death penalty.
Singapore has a system with serious deterrent sentences. There is almost no crime.
In some cultures where people have nothing and there is no welfare system, I agree deterrents maybe don't work, but that argument does apply in any way to UK.
John it was tongue in cheek, but the fact is most ordinary people who have no association with the drug pushing gangster element of our society would automatically react that way in the same way that I don't care if the smackhead who stole my car and smashed it up overdoses on his next fix.
I didn't say I was against the death penalty in my post, I said i didnt think it was a deterent. As it happens I believe that in certain circumstances humane capital punishment has a place in our society for the most brutal murderers and child molesters where rehabilitation isn't going to work or for repeat offenders. However I don't think it would act as a deterent, murderers and child molesters were around prior to the abolition of the death penalty. Capital punishment exists more to apease an angry public when someone has commited a horrific crime
Good post English man. I differ on your opinion on capital punishment having no effect. You only got to look at the statistics. If you haven't already, watch the film .Pierrepoint'. You won't stop the child killers etc but you will have an effect on those ' casual' robbery killings. You mentioned about no sorrow about the smack head going to the wall, I put it to you how would you feel that junkie being one of yours. Dealers should be treated like mass murderers, with a bullet through the head.
Like what's been pointed out already, with modern technology, it's hardly likely of any miscarriages of justice, unlike in the past. What it wants is a few of our law makers to fall foul of these scum, we will see changes then
I can see where you're coming from Gwap, and in some ways it's the most simple solution, but as we live in a so called civilised society and preach its virtues around the world, we also have to be seen to be acting in a civilised way too. There's no easy answer for this and there will always be good arguments and cases put forward on both sides.
And yes, I really have no sympathy at all for drug dealers who get killed by rival gangs or who overdose and die. They know the risks when they get involved in that scene, if you want to dance with the devil, you've got to be prepared to pay the price. Would I feel differently if I knew someone who was invoved? Probably yes but i don't and hopefully my life is too far removed from it to ever get involved with it, and I intend to make sure the people I love the most don't get involved with it either.
I've always gone along with "String 'em up ! It's the only language those ba$tard$ understand"
We have discussed this several times my own view is that its clearly no deterent just revenge and we as a nation decided not to have that done anymore on our behalf there are grave dougbts about the last guy hung in England hanratty
Once your dead an apology for a mistake is not much good
Deadworth apears to favour the spectacle of the Roman arena at half time in your local sports stadium how disgusting is that?
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NO ... ... the politicians decided ... HAD the British public been given the chance to vote on the issues of Corporal AND Capital Punishment it would've been a different outcome altogether! And I am convinced BOTH would've ended up being retained!!
Hanratty's guilt has since been established if I'm not mistaken. But irrespective of whether this is the case or not ... DNA profiling has advanced to the extent where it is more or less guaranteed to prevent miscarriages of justice.
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