I dont think capital punishment is a deterent at all. Murders are still commited in countries with a death penalty. The fact is the UK has one of the lowest murder rates per head of population anywhere in the world. Of the 620 or so cases John referred to, I wonder how many of those were intergang related murders. TBH those sort of murders are doing us all a favor by removing the drug pushing scum from the earth. I'd be interested to know what the 'real' number of murders is (excluding rival drug killings and drive bys)?