5 Murderers Executed - Well Done Taiwan

[Englishman2010]

Englishman.-

I really cannot believe what you are saying. If you think that the ones being killed 'deserved it' in some way (an incredible idea) then I cannot imagine how you can be against a legal death penalty.

Singapore has a system with serious deterrent sentences. There is almost no crime.
In some cultures where people have nothing and there is no welfare system, I agree deterrents maybe don't work, but that argument does apply in any way to UK.

John it was tongue in cheek, but the fact is most ordinary people who have no association with the drug pushing gangster element of our society would automatically react that way in the same way that I don't care if the smackhead who stole my car and smashed it up overdoses on his next fix.
I didn't say I was against the death penalty in my post, I said i didnt think it was a deterent. As it happens I believe that in certain circumstances humane capital punishment has a place in our society for the most brutal murderers and child molesters where rehabilitation isn't going to work or for repeat offenders. However I don't think it would act as a deterent, murderers and child molesters were around prior to the abolition of the death penalty. Capital punishment exists more to apease an angry public when someone has commited a horrific crime

[gWaPito]

Good post English man. I differ on your opinion on capital punishment having no effect. You only got to look at the statistics. If you haven't already, watch the film .Pierrepoint'. You won't stop the child killers etc but you will have an effect on those ' casual' robbery killings. You mentioned about no sorrow about the smack head going to the wall, I put it to you how would you feel that junkie being one of yours. Dealers should be treated like mass murderers, with a bullet through the head.

[gWaPito]

Like what's been pointed out already, with modern technology, it's hardly likely of any miscarriages of justice, unlike in the past. What it wants is a few of our law makers to fall foul of these scum, we will see changes then

[bornatbirth]

Like what's been pointed out already, with modern technology, it's hardly likely of any miscarriages of justice, unlike in the past. What it wants is a few of our law makers to fall foul of these scum, we will see changes then

ok, so you can prove that a person is guilty ...who do you feel you can kill and by what method

[Arthur Little]

ok, so you can prove that a person is guilty ...who do you feel you can kill and by what method

Brady & Hindley, the 'Moors Murderers', were classic examples of the incarnate! There's not a shadow of doubt about the horrendous cruelties that EVIL pair inflicted on their defenceless child victims. To MY mind - and in the mindset of the British public at large - those two were beyond redemption. Hanging - even if if it had still been in common use in the mid 1960s - would've been too kind a disposal for them. Instead, they deserved to be driven to the quiet spots where their horrific deeds were committed ... and slowly subjected to the selfsame tortures : and atrocities THEY'D meted out at each of the remote locations ... then left to die slowly - ALONE and in pain - in similar fashion.

Thankfully, Hindley was never released - despite that old buffoon, Lord Longford's , misguided efforts on her behalf - and ended up dying in captivity. Alas, the best we can hope and for at this late stage, is that the same miserable fate awaits Brady!

[gWaPito]

ok, so you can prove that a person is guilty ...who do you feel you can kill and by what method

What's wrong with the methods of yesteryear. Remember, this status of non capital punishment is a new phenomenon. It was less than 60 years since Ruth Ellis swang by the rope. As for getting volunteer' s to do the deed, it shouldn't cause a problem. The likes of Lord Longford have much to answer for.

[Dedworth]

The likes of Lord Longford have much to answer for.

we are in the mess we are today due to the liberal left - broken/benefit Britain, failed multiculturalism, muslim extremism, lawlesness and lack of respect. It's all down to the poisonous cocktail of ageing hippies, hand wringing liberals, old and new labourites. I'd happily string the lot of them up.

[gWaPito]

we are in the mess we are today due to the liberal left - broken/benefit Britain, failed multiculturalism, muslim extremism, lawlesness and lack of respect. It's all down to the poisonous cocktail of ageing hippies, hand wringing liberals, old and new labourites. I'd happily string the lot of them up.

I agree Ded although the multicultural thing is working in my house. What I don't agree with is the disenfranchisement by some of our extremist fraternity.

[Arthur Little]

by what method

Whats wrong with using the old-fashioned French method? 'Madame La Guillotine' - "heads WILL roll" [literally!] - quick, (fairly) humane ... and extremely effective.

[bornatbirth]

Whats wrong with using the old-fashioned French method? 'Madame La Guillotine' - "heads WILL roll" [literally!] - quick, (fairly) humane ... and extremely effective.

arthur, your sounding more like dedworth everyday

its been proven that people get wrongly convicted and sentenced to prison for many years....even with these so called mistakes some of you want to or

[Arthur Little]

arthur, your sounding more like dedworth everyday

... I'll take that as a "compliment", shall I !?

[Dedworth]

What it wants is a few of our law makers to fall foul of these scum, we will see changes then

Excellent point G

[Englishman2010]

Good post English man. I differ on your opinion on capital punishment having no effect. You only got to look at the statistics. If you haven't already, watch the film .Pierrepoint'. You won't stop the child killers etc but you will have an effect on those ' casual' robbery killings. You mentioned about no sorrow about the smack head going to the wall, I put it to you how would you feel that junkie being one of yours. Dealers should be treated like mass murderers, with a bullet through the head.

I can see where you're coming from Gwap, and in some ways it's the most simple solution, but as we live in a so called civilised society and preach its virtues around the world, we also have to be seen to be acting in a civilised way too. There's no easy answer for this and there will always be good arguments and cases put forward on both sides.

And yes, I really have no sympathy at all for drug dealers who get killed by rival gangs or who overdose and die. They know the risks when they get involved in that scene, if you want to dance with the devil, you've got to be prepared to pay the price. Would I feel differently if I knew someone who was invoved? Probably yes but i don't and hopefully my life is too far removed from it to ever get involved with it, and I intend to make sure the people I love the most don't get involved with it either.