Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 77

Thread: 5 Murderers Executed - Well Done Taiwan

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Berkshire
    Posts
    18,267
    Rep Power
    0

    Thumbs up 5 Murderers Executed - Well Done Taiwan

    TAIPEI: Taiwan on Friday executed four prisoners in the first death sentences to be carried out since 2005, the justice ministry said.


    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...053715/1/.html


  2. #2
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Southern England
    Posts
    5,102
    Rep Power
    0
    Along with meating this sort of punishment and sorting out the ' money for nothing' welfare system this will solve the crisis we have.


  3. #3
    Respected Member stevie c's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    uk
    Posts
    3,478
    Rep Power
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Along with meating this sort of punishment and sorting out the ' money for nothing' welfare system this will solve the crisis we have.
    I couldnt agree more gwapo bring back capital punishment imo


  4. #4
    Respected Member keithAngel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Land of Honey Ko,s
    Posts
    2,789
    Rep Power
    84
    Guys much to your chargrin you still live in a civilised country
    Absit invidia

    DISCLAIMER: The information hereinabove may or may not be entirely accurate, relevant, forthright, verifiable, or coherent. KeithAngel, who shall herein be refered to as the 'Shining Beacon of Light', reserves the right to neither confirm, deny, justify, explain, or otherwise acknowledge any inquiry in regards to the validity, genuinity, construction, intent, and/or motive of any statements, gestures, and/or actions whether real, imagined, or transdimensional in origin. Further, the 'Shining Beacon of Light' shall be absolved of any and all legal, moral, and financial responsibilities for damages to life, limb, character, reputation, property, and/or business resulting from the usage, assimilation, incorporation, replication, and/or distribution of said statements whether partial, complete, misquoted, or imagined. This disclaimer remains in effect despite any discrepancies or claims as to its legibility, comprehension, interpretation, subliminal suggestiveness, political affiliation, legality, visibility, and/or physical presence


  5. #5
    Respected Member jimeve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Bolton,lanc's uk
    Posts
    1,623
    Rep Power
    76
    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    Guys much to your chargrin you still live in a civilised country
    USA, is that not a civilised county too


  6. #6
    Respected Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Spain since 1988. My wife has been here since June 2006
    Posts
    2,384
    Rep Power
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    Guys much to your chargrin you still live in a civilised country
    With 619 UK murders in 2010 (if that figure is correct) it's arguable whether a society which fails to have a deterrent which works, can be describes as 'civilised.

    Of course to that figure one should add those who, but for a surgeons skill would also have died, and those who are permanently disabled. '


  7. #7
    Respected Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    4,314
    Rep Power
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    TAIPEI: Usually convicts in Taiwan are put to death with a bullet to the head.

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...053715/1/.html
    It isn't much of a deterent then is it


  8. #8
    Respected Member jimeve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Bolton,lanc's uk
    Posts
    1,623
    Rep Power
    76
    Quote Originally Posted by Englishman2010 View Post
    It isn't much of a deterent then is it
    He's just came into office...... quote...
    Recently-appointed Justice Minister Tseng Yung-fu approved the executions on Wednesday, state-run Central News Agency said, citing justice ministry officials..... Time will tell if it's a deterrent.


  9. #9
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Southern England
    Posts
    5,102
    Rep Power
    0
    I want to know what dictionary Keith is using


  10. #10
    Respected Member keithAngel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Land of Honey Ko,s
    Posts
    2,789
    Rep Power
    84
    In this case
    From Merriam-Webster:
    disquietude or distress of mind caused by humiliation, disappointment, or failure



    Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_...#ixzz1FtVqIjiN

    Just trying to counter the dumbing down of mail readers who only need a 40 word plus proper names vocabulary
    Absit invidia

    DISCLAIMER: The information hereinabove may or may not be entirely accurate, relevant, forthright, verifiable, or coherent. KeithAngel, who shall herein be refered to as the 'Shining Beacon of Light', reserves the right to neither confirm, deny, justify, explain, or otherwise acknowledge any inquiry in regards to the validity, genuinity, construction, intent, and/or motive of any statements, gestures, and/or actions whether real, imagined, or transdimensional in origin. Further, the 'Shining Beacon of Light' shall be absolved of any and all legal, moral, and financial responsibilities for damages to life, limb, character, reputation, property, and/or business resulting from the usage, assimilation, incorporation, replication, and/or distribution of said statements whether partial, complete, misquoted, or imagined. This disclaimer remains in effect despite any discrepancies or claims as to its legibility, comprehension, interpretation, subliminal suggestiveness, political affiliation, legality, visibility, and/or physical presence


  11. #11
    Respected Member bornatbirth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    5,383
    Rep Power
    112
    lets hope that none of them are found innocent
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


  12. #12
    Respected Member keithAngel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Land of Honey Ko,s
    Posts
    2,789
    Rep Power
    84
    China just lines them up one bullet why waste resources
    Absit invidia

    DISCLAIMER: The information hereinabove may or may not be entirely accurate, relevant, forthright, verifiable, or coherent. KeithAngel, who shall herein be refered to as the 'Shining Beacon of Light', reserves the right to neither confirm, deny, justify, explain, or otherwise acknowledge any inquiry in regards to the validity, genuinity, construction, intent, and/or motive of any statements, gestures, and/or actions whether real, imagined, or transdimensional in origin. Further, the 'Shining Beacon of Light' shall be absolved of any and all legal, moral, and financial responsibilities for damages to life, limb, character, reputation, property, and/or business resulting from the usage, assimilation, incorporation, replication, and/or distribution of said statements whether partial, complete, misquoted, or imagined. This disclaimer remains in effect despite any discrepancies or claims as to its legibility, comprehension, interpretation, subliminal suggestiveness, political affiliation, legality, visibility, and/or physical presence


  13. #13
    Respected Member keithAngel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Land of Honey Ko,s
    Posts
    2,789
    Rep Power
    84
    Your still 5 times more likely to die in a trafic accident
    Absit invidia

    DISCLAIMER: The information hereinabove may or may not be entirely accurate, relevant, forthright, verifiable, or coherent. KeithAngel, who shall herein be refered to as the 'Shining Beacon of Light', reserves the right to neither confirm, deny, justify, explain, or otherwise acknowledge any inquiry in regards to the validity, genuinity, construction, intent, and/or motive of any statements, gestures, and/or actions whether real, imagined, or transdimensional in origin. Further, the 'Shining Beacon of Light' shall be absolved of any and all legal, moral, and financial responsibilities for damages to life, limb, character, reputation, property, and/or business resulting from the usage, assimilation, incorporation, replication, and/or distribution of said statements whether partial, complete, misquoted, or imagined. This disclaimer remains in effect despite any discrepancies or claims as to its legibility, comprehension, interpretation, subliminal suggestiveness, political affiliation, legality, visibility, and/or physical presence


  14. #14
    Respected Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Spain since 1988. My wife has been here since June 2006
    Posts
    2,384
    Rep Power
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    Your still 5 times more likely to die in a trafic accident
    That good to know then, we can give the killers a bonus and know when they kill one of our family we are lucky that they were not killed on the road !!!!!!


  15. #15
    Moderator Arthur Little's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    City of Perth, Scotland
    Posts
    24,230
    Rep Power
    150
    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    Your still 5 times more likely to die in a trafic accident
    What's that got to do with it? Unless the traffic "accident" is caused by an inebriated hit-and-run motorist who mows down an child ... then scarpers - leaving his/her victim lying badly injured ... or [worse] ... *dead at the roadside! That's *MURDER ... although the driver (if caught) is likely be convicted of a lesser charge of manslaughter (at most) if the child dies.

    What the criminals were executed for in China, amounted to cold-blooded killings in each of the cases reported here. And I have to say that - crimes of passion, gangland slayings, deaths arising from drunken rabbles and/or in acts of self defence apart - with John as regards the need for an ultimate deterrent ... whenever it can be proved beyond reasonable doubt that death occurred as a direct result of premeditated homicide.


  16. #16
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Berkshire
    Posts
    18,267
    Rep Power
    0
    China used to do it the right way - provide a bit of half time entertainment at the local football ground. Manacled condemned would be paraded round the touchline with placards around their necks detailing their crimes, then driven off in the back of a pick up to a corner of the carpark to have a bullet put through the back of their heads. Cheap & cheerful - it gets the deterrent message across to Joe Public


  17. #17
    Moderator Arthur Little's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    City of Perth, Scotland
    Posts
    24,230
    Rep Power
    150

    Exclamation

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    ... driven off in the back of a pick up to a corner of the carpark to have a bullet put through the back of their heads.
    ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Cheap & cheerful ...
    ... ... cheap, perhaps. But I wouldn't go so far as to call it "cheerful"!

    Nevertheless ... with the view you've expressed in your concluding statement about it's deterrent value!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    - it gets the deterrent message across to Joe Public
    !


  18. #18
    Respected Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    4,314
    Rep Power
    101
    I dont think capital punishment is a deterent at all. Murders are still commited in countries with a death penalty. The fact is the UK has one of the lowest murder rates per head of population anywhere in the world. Of the 620 or so cases John referred to, I wonder how many of those were intergang related murders. TBH those sort of murders are doing us all a favor by removing the drug pushing scum from the earth. I'd be interested to know what the 'real' number of murders is (excluding rival drug killings and drive bys)?


  19. #19
    Respected Member stevie c's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    uk
    Posts
    3,478
    Rep Power
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by Englishman2010 View Post
    I don't think capital punishment is a deterent at all. Murders are still commited in countries with a death penalty. The fact is the UK has one of the lowest murder rates per head of population anywhere in the world. Of the 620 or so cases John referred to, I wonder how many of those were intergang related murders. TBH those sort of murders are doing us all a favor by removing the drug pushing scum from the earth. I'd be interested to know what the 'real' number of murders is (excluding rival drug killings and drive bys)?
    Have you watched crimewatch lately the amount of innocent people that have been murdered for the sake of a few quid or there belongings some even tortured before they were murdered i agree there is a big problem with gang related murders but that doesn't alter the fact that capital punishment on the whole would have a big part in cutting down on these terrible crimes i mean what seems better 12yrs in prison or capital punishment it has to be the latter surely


  20. #20
    Respected Member Ako Si Jamie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    7,191
    Rep Power
    150
    No point wasting money on keeping scum like serial killers & paedophiles alive when it can be spent on more worthwhile causes.


  21. #21
    Respected Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Spain since 1988. My wife has been here since June 2006
    Posts
    2,384
    Rep Power
    101
    Englishman.-

    I really cannot believe what you are saying. If you think that the ones being killed 'deserved it' in some way (an incredible idea) then I cannot imagine how you can be against a legal death penalty.

    Singapore has a system with serious deterrent sentences. There is almost no crime.
    In some cultures where people have nothing and there is no welfare system, I agree deterrents maybe don't work, but that argument does apply in any way to UK.


  22. #22
    Respected Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    4,314
    Rep Power
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    Englishman.-

    I really cannot believe what you are saying. If you think that the ones being killed 'deserved it' in some way (an incredible idea) then I cannot imagine how you can be against a legal death penalty.

    Singapore has a system with serious deterrent sentences. There is almost no crime.
    In some cultures where people have nothing and there is no welfare system, I agree deterrents maybe don't work, but that argument does apply in any way to UK.
    John it was tongue in cheek, but the fact is most ordinary people who have no association with the drug pushing gangster element of our society would automatically react that way in the same way that I don't care if the smackhead who stole my car and smashed it up overdoses on his next fix.
    I didn't say I was against the death penalty in my post, I said i didnt think it was a deterent. As it happens I believe that in certain circumstances humane capital punishment has a place in our society for the most brutal murderers and child molesters where rehabilitation isn't going to work or for repeat offenders. However I don't think it would act as a deterent, murderers and child molesters were around prior to the abolition of the death penalty. Capital punishment exists more to apease an angry public when someone has commited a horrific crime


  23. #23
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Southern England
    Posts
    5,102
    Rep Power
    0
    Good post English man. I differ on your opinion on capital punishment having no effect. You only got to look at the statistics. If you haven't already, watch the film .Pierrepoint'. You won't stop the child killers etc but you will have an effect on those ' casual' robbery killings. You mentioned about no sorrow about the smack head going to the wall, I put it to you how would you feel that junkie being one of yours. Dealers should be treated like mass murderers, with a bullet through the head.


  24. #24
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Southern England
    Posts
    5,102
    Rep Power
    0

    Red face

    Like what's been pointed out already, with modern technology, it's hardly likely of any miscarriages of justice, unlike in the past. What it wants is a few of our law makers to fall foul of these scum, we will see changes then


  25. #25
    Respected Member bornatbirth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    5,383
    Rep Power
    112
    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Like what's been pointed out already, with modern technology, it's hardly likely of any miscarriages of justice, unlike in the past. What it wants is a few of our law makers to fall foul of these scum, we will see changes then
    ok, so you can prove that a person is guilty ...who do you feel you can kill and by what method
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


  26. #26
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Berkshire
    Posts
    18,267
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    What it wants is a few of our law makers to fall foul of these scum, we will see changes then
    Excellent point G


  27. #27
    Respected Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    4,314
    Rep Power
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Good post English man. I differ on your opinion on capital punishment having no effect. You only got to look at the statistics. If you haven't already, watch the film .Pierrepoint'. You won't stop the child killers etc but you will have an effect on those ' casual' robbery killings. You mentioned about no sorrow about the smack head going to the wall, I put it to you how would you feel that junkie being one of yours. Dealers should be treated like mass murderers, with a bullet through the head.
    I can see where you're coming from Gwap, and in some ways it's the most simple solution, but as we live in a so called civilised society and preach its virtues around the world, we also have to be seen to be acting in a civilised way too. There's no easy answer for this and there will always be good arguments and cases put forward on both sides.

    And yes, I really have no sympathy at all for drug dealers who get killed by rival gangs or who overdose and die. They know the risks when they get involved in that scene, if you want to dance with the devil, you've got to be prepared to pay the price. Would I feel differently if I knew someone who was invoved? Probably yes but i don't and hopefully my life is too far removed from it to ever get involved with it, and I intend to make sure the people I love the most don't get involved with it either.


  28. #28
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Berkshire
    Posts
    18,267
    Rep Power
    0
    I've always gone along with "String 'em up ! It's the only language those ba$tard$ understand"


  29. #29
    Respected Member keithAngel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Land of Honey Ko,s
    Posts
    2,789
    Rep Power
    84
    We have discussed this several times my own view is that its clearly no deterent just revenge and we as a nation decided not to have that done anymore on our behalf there are grave dougbts about the last guy hung in England hanratty

    Once your dead an apology for a mistake is not much good

    Deadworth apears to favour the spectacle of the Roman arena at half time in your local sports stadium how disgusting is that?
    Absit invidia

    DISCLAIMER: The information hereinabove may or may not be entirely accurate, relevant, forthright, verifiable, or coherent. KeithAngel, who shall herein be refered to as the 'Shining Beacon of Light', reserves the right to neither confirm, deny, justify, explain, or otherwise acknowledge any inquiry in regards to the validity, genuinity, construction, intent, and/or motive of any statements, gestures, and/or actions whether real, imagined, or transdimensional in origin. Further, the 'Shining Beacon of Light' shall be absolved of any and all legal, moral, and financial responsibilities for damages to life, limb, character, reputation, property, and/or business resulting from the usage, assimilation, incorporation, replication, and/or distribution of said statements whether partial, complete, misquoted, or imagined. This disclaimer remains in effect despite any discrepancies or claims as to its legibility, comprehension, interpretation, subliminal suggestiveness, political affiliation, legality, visibility, and/or physical presence


  30. #30
    Moderator Arthur Little's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    City of Perth, Scotland
    Posts
    24,230
    Rep Power
    150
    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    We have discussed this several times my own view is that its clearly no deterent just revenge and we as a nation decided not to have that done anymore on our behalf there are grave dougbts about the last guy hung in England hanratty
    NO ... ... the politicians decided ... HAD the British public been given the chance to vote on the issues of Corporal AND Capital Punishment it would've been a different outcome altogether! And I am convinced BOTH would've ended up being retained!!

    Hanratty's guilt has since been established if I'm not mistaken. But irrespective of whether this is the case or not ... DNA profiling has advanced to the extent where it is more or less guaranteed to prevent miscarriages of justice.


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 4 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 4 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Murderers Wander With Machetes at Idyllic Philippine Prison
    By Terpe in forum Living in the Philippines
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 22nd June 2014, 14:09
  2. 20% of rapists and murderers are foreign
    By Dedworth in forum News UK
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 14th May 2013, 16:06
  3. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 14th March 2013, 15:50
  4. Filipino's Executed
    By KeithD in forum News - World
    Replies: 65
    Last Post: 13th April 2011, 16:41

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Filipino Forum : Philippine Forum