Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
yes that maybe true, but many of us are products of our surroundings and upbringing, and for some its a vicious cycle to break out of
It's not on the BBC I player anymore but you should check out Ep 2 of Series 2 Neighbourhood Watched - 2 inadequate single mums are evicted (after numerous warnings/court orders) from brand new social housing in Ashton Under Lyme for anti social behaviour. Small clip here 32- 48 secs shows some of them plus the drunken foul mouthed mother of one of the girls who rides round the estate lagered up carrying kids on her mobility scooter.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fkdq9