yeah i kno im ex navy too... 12 yrs actually ... my father was a a cracking cricket player n footballer too... he went down the mines at 14 yrs of age too.. hes now just turned 79 had his lung removed due to cancer two yrs ago ..now the onset of dementia has crept in ... but he still wants to enjoy life best he can .. and i adore listening to him too.. hes rank labour and yeah its washed of on me too.. but we some times have heated discussions on politics and its fun... but all im saying is .is that its not worth arguing over.. as we are only pawns in this game ... but i think politicians must work harder for their livings... .. lets see a better england.. and be proud of it too..