i was waiting for you to post about AV dedworth
i'll be voting no thou
I voted YES ..... only because I voted NO for the last referrendum .... best to be fair
Keith - Administrator
AV
i thought dedworth would vote yes as he supports a team that will finish second or third but would like them to win
i may vote yes...i doubt many others will
i have learnt to do what my wife says!
Originally Posted by bornatbirth
i thought dedworth would vote yes as he supports a team that will finish second or third but would like them to win
i may vote yes...i doubt many others will
I'm a definite no vote on this one
I will be voting yes for change. Every 5 years or so I am begged to come out and vote for a party who will then completely ignore the public and follow the wishes of big business and their cronies and are very quick to put you at the sharp end when the bullets start to whiz around.
AV would give us a more wider representative parliament, and reduce safe seat politics.
It's the political system that needs an overhaul, not the voting system
What's your definition of our political system?It's the political system that needs an overhaul, not the voting system
My definition is that that of Democracy. Majority Rule.
Nothing is perfect.
Majority Rule eh
Majority rule ? so 60% of electrate turn out to vote and about 30% of them vote Con so thats roughly 20% of the population ... where's the majority there ? also its a good enough system for the Con's to use to choose thier leader...the qusetion to ask is why are they against it ? mabey it will give people a real voice and thats not good for politics is it ? Imagine normal people have a real voice thats just terrible....Oh and have a nice long weekend all
oh and I diddnt vots for a Conservative Liberal Democrat coalition it was'nt even on the paper but thats what they gave us apparently thats what we wanted......... ok im off my soapbox
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Yes, I can spell, Just can't tpye
I understand your point, but firstly I feel lucky to live in a democratic environment, secondly I feel lucky that at least we are free to discuss and input into the type of voting system we prefer.Majority rule ? so 60% of electrate turn out to vote and about 30% of them vote Con so thats roughly 20% of the population ... where's the majority there ? also its a good enough system for the Con's to use to choose thier leader...the qusetion to ask is why are they against it ? mabey it will give people a real voice and thats not good for politics is it ? Imagine normal people have a real voice thats just terrible....Oh and have a nice long weekend all
oh and I diddnt vots for a Conservative Liberal Democrat coalition it was'nt even on the paper but thats what they gave us apparently thats what we wanted......... ok im off my soapbox
I'm still waiting for someone to provide their own views on a proven alternative.
Still nothings perfect
Maybe we should make voting a legal requirement and criminalise those who disagree? I've got a feeling they do that in some EU countries.??
It's the electorates fault for not being bothered to vote.Majority rule ? so 60% of electrate turn out to vote and about 30% of them vote Con so thats roughly 20% of the population ... where's the majority there ? also its a good enough system for the Con's to use to choose thier leader...the qusetion to ask is why are they against it ? mabey it will give people a real voice and thats not good for politics is it ? Imagine normal people have a real voice thats just terrible....Oh and have a nice long weekend all
oh and I diddnt vots for a Conservative Liberal Democrat coalition it was'nt even on the paper but thats what they gave us apparently thats what we wanted......... ok im off my soapbox
There's no excuses, even the postal method is open to anyone now unlike in the past.
It's everyones duty to vote. The present voting system is just and fair.
I wonder how many of that non voting 40% are whinging and whining about the present coalition? A great many. They only have themselves to blame.
Like the census, they should make it a legal obligation to vote.
... makes perfect sense!
Hmmm ... well ...
... I've already cast MY 3 POSTAL votes!!!
Three? And by post? Why?
Because ... up here, in the land o' thean' heather ... it's time for the Quadriennial Parliamentary Elections in which - as has been my wont for the past 28 years - I shall once again fulfill the role of Presiding Officer. "Nothing new there",
you might think. Ah ...
... but there IS! On this occasion - due to Reorganisation of Constituency Boundaries - no fewer than SEVEN of us will be crammed into a local Gospel Hall... that is patently ill-equipped to double-up as a polling station. There ... within the confines of a venue roughly half the size of our usual surroundings ... more or less "manacled" to a desk for 16 hours - from 6.20am till 10.20pm - (under the terms of our Contracts of Employment we're forbidden to leave the premises throughout the poll!) except to have a
... each of us will do our level best to explain [to an unsurprisingly
electorate] yet another
Governmental idiosyncracy that involves conducting three different procedures on the same day!
So... within the confines of a venue roughly half the size of our usual surroundings ... more or less "manacled" to a desk for 16 hours - from 6.20am till 10.20pm - (under the terms of our Contracts of Employment we're forbidden to leave the premises throughout the poll!) except to have a... spare a thought for the poor election staff cooped up tomorrow
while everyone else in the UK is out and about enjoying the
Yes to A LSo
yes to AL or yes to Arthur LittleYes to A L
i have learnt to do what my wife says!
A definite Yes to Arthur Little and his election staff for a job well doneyes to AL or yes to Arthur Little
If there was an option to vote them out then more people would vote but when you are not really given a choice then what is the point of voting, either way you get a clone they all went to the same schools and probably all been buggered by each other and they do the same thing once there in and how come the losing party still get in parliment and get payed for losing ? ok some one said its not a perfect system... well really you dont say
Yes, I can spell, Just can't tpye
... hence TWO very valid reasons for voting a resounding 'NO' to the proposed alternative.
i like to vote for the Green party first but because i think they will not win I have to vote Labour , who do have a chance to win so AV suits me so it gets my vote
Paul
If you want to see what a system like AV might do to this country then take a look at the European parliament & Euro MPs.
The amount of stupid rules/regulations that get passed there because of a "you vote for mine & I'll vote for yours" approach rather than a single or coalition government guided policy.
The commission is the single "party" guiding policy and you dont even get to vote for them... remeber lefty kinnock.. what happened to him.. well guess he's got a cosy seat somewhere and he doesnt lean to left anymore it's a case of put your mouth where the money is......good choice
some people need to find some proper facts and not just take what is written in the Sun or what they hear on corrie/eastenders as fact
Yes, I can spell, Just can't tpye
doesnt kinnock have a seat in brussels now most discarded mps seem to end up there
I would rather compare the Swedish proportional voting system that seems to have served the country quite well and the welfare of their people are put first, as opposed to the first past the post system that a lot of African countries use such as Zimbabwe , or put another way I would rather have a Swedish pension then a Zimbabwe pension.
As an example to my views on the EU Commission, new legislation was brought in regarding ID tags for sheep. During the consultation period groups representing the livestock industry made many suggestions as to making the unworkable proposed policy fit for purpose but this advice fell on deaf ears of the English government who failed to propose any amendments. An attempt was made to reach out to EU mp's & at one stage looked promising but this soon changed after back room deals were made and the support disappeared.
Because of this we know have a Id tag system in place that's so complicated that DEFRA & trading standards who are meant to over see & police it don't even know the correct procedures to comply with the rules as I recently found out after not knowing what to do regarding a problem I found my self in, I contacted both DEFRA & trading standards to find out what the correct way to deal with my problem and neither could give me a answer.
The new Id regulation were meant to improve bio security & reduce fraud but its made it so that its easier to commit fraud than try and comply with the rules.
sounds like red tape stupidity and yet again alot of wasted taxpayers money
CRAZY BUT THEN NOTHING NEW THERE I LOVE HEARING SUCH STORIES IM SURE THEY DO THESE CRAZY THINGS TO TRY TO RETAIN JOBS IF THATS WHAT YOU CAN CALL THEM
who actually pushed this through to vote on was it lib dems who influenced it id love to know ive not really had time to take notice or all of it in it would suit the libs as i think if anyones main vote was lagour for example then it wont be tories as second its more likely to be the libs the same if your prefered 1st choice was tory
so whos likely to gain power i know where my money is lol
gWaPito is spot on
Its not the system at fault but the people who don't get involved.
As to saying that the current system does not give the people a voice
If all the people who complain but don't vote or the people who vote by colour actually took the time to look at who was standing and what there manifesto was then voted based on who closest matched there views then the main parties would have a shock!
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