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    i like to vote for the Green party first but because i think they will not win I have to vote Labour , who do have a chance to win so AV suits me so it gets my vote

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    If you want to see what a system like AV might do to this country then take a look at the European parliament & Euro MPs.
    The amount of stupid rules/regulations that get passed there because of a "you vote for mine & I'll vote for yours" approach rather than a single or coalition government guided policy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmerg View Post
    If you want to see what a system like AV might do to this country then take a look at the European parliament & Euro MPs.
    The amount of stupid rules/regulations that get passed there because of a "you vote for mine & I'll vote for yours" approach rather than a single or coalition government guided policy.
    The commission is the single "party" guiding policy and you dont even get to vote for them... remeber lefty kinnock.. what happened to him.. well guess he's got a cosy seat somewhere and he doesnt lean to left anymore it's a case of put your mouth where the money is......good choice

    some people need to find some proper facts and not just take what is written in the Sun or what they hear on corrie/eastenders as fact
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    Quote Originally Posted by notavirusalso View Post
    the commission is the single "party" guiding policy and you dont even get to vote for them... Remeber lefty kinnock.. What happened to him.. Well guess he's got a cosy seat somewhere and he doesnt lean to left anymore it's a case of put your mouth where the money is......good choice

    some people need to find some proper facts and not just take what is written in the sun or what they hear on corrie/eastenders as fact
    doesnt kinnock have a seat in brussels now most discarded mps seem to end up there


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    I would rather compare the Swedish proportional voting system that seems to have served the country quite well and the welfare of their people are put first, as opposed to the first past the post system that a lot of African countries use such as Zimbabwe , or put another way I would rather have a Swedish pension then a Zimbabwe pension.


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    As an example to my views on the EU Commission, new legislation was brought in regarding ID tags for sheep. During the consultation period groups representing the livestock industry made many suggestions as to making the unworkable proposed policy fit for purpose but this advice fell on deaf ears of the English government who failed to propose any amendments. An attempt was made to reach out to EU mp's & at one stage looked promising but this soon changed after back room deals were made and the support disappeared.

    Because of this we know have a Id tag system in place that's so complicated that DEFRA & trading standards who are meant to over see & police it don't even know the correct procedures to comply with the rules as I recently found out after not knowing what to do regarding a problem I found my self in, I contacted both DEFRA & trading standards to find out what the correct way to deal with my problem and neither could give me a answer.

    The new Id regulation were meant to improve bio security & reduce fraud but its made it so that its easier to commit fraud than try and comply with the rules.


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    sounds like red tape stupidity and yet again alot of wasted taxpayers money
    CRAZY BUT THEN NOTHING NEW THERE I LOVE HEARING SUCH STORIES IM SURE THEY DO THESE CRAZY THINGS TO TRY TO RETAIN JOBS IF THATS WHAT YOU CAN CALL THEM


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    Quote Originally Posted by kester View Post
    i like to vote for the green party first but because i think they will not win i have to vote labour , who do have a chance to win so av suits me so it gets my vote

    paul
    who actually pushed this through to vote on was it lib dems who influenced it id love to know ive not really had time to take notice or all of it in it would suit the libs as i think if anyones main vote was lagour for example then it wont be tories as second its more likely to be the libs the same if your prefered 1st choice was tory
    so whos likely to gain power i know where my money is lol


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