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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    I will continue to vote Conservative like I have since 1979, the year Maggie Thatcher won the race to premiership. Un-arguably the greatest pm since Sir Winston Churchhill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    I twas the extreme socialist (we can all drive 7 series bmw's) unions what ruined it all.

    It was actually cheaper to leave the coal in the ground and bring it in from elsewhere.

    I will continue to vote Conservative like I have since 1979, the year Maggie Thatcher won the race to premiership. Un-arguably the greatest pm since Sir Winston Churchhill.
    i guess thats why england is in the state it is today...


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    Well, Sir Winston Churchill was a great leader in time of severe crisis, and was instrumental in defeating a fascist dictator, saving our little island nation.
    Thatcher on the other hand was a fascist dictator, and will probably be best remembered for the very popular poll tax, the riots, an unnecessary war, Boom or bust economy, and selling off the nations assets.
    Even her own cronies stabbed her in the back, and got rid of her.
    While some may argue as to how well so many did under her, Just as many, if not more went bust.
    One thing all the modern day politicians seem to have in common, is their eagerness to drag us into dubious wars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    I twas the extreme socialist (we can all drive 7 series bmw's) unions what ruined it all.

    It was actually cheaper to leave the coal in the ground and bring it in from elsewhere.

    I will continue to vote Conservative like I have since 1979, the year Maggie Thatcher won the race to premiership. Un-arguably the greatest pm since Sir Winston Churchhill.
    I was a big fan of Thatcher she took no-.... strong leader


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    I was a big fan of Thatcher she took no-.... strong leader
    Likewise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by branno View Post
    i guess thats why england is in the state it is today...
    Precisely It explains why people from all over the world would want to live here.

    If the UK was in such a bad way, it wouldn't be the case.

    Great Britain is, whether you like to admit it or not, is still Great.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Toneec View Post
    Well, Sir Winston Churchill was a great leader in time of severe crisis, and was instrumental in defeating a fascist dictator, saving our little island nation.
    Thatcher on the other hand was a fascist dictator, and will probably be best remembered for the very popular poll tax, the riots, an unnecessary war, Boom or bust economy, and selling off the nations assets.
    Even her own cronies stabbed her in the back, and got rid of her.
    While some may argue as to how well so many did under her, Just as many, if not more went bust.
    One thing all the modern day politicians seem to have in common, is their eagerness to drag us into dubious wars.
    Many more did better than those who didn't otherwise she wouldn't of been voted back in.

    if it weren't for her,millions of the Great British public wouldn't of made it on to the property ladder, me included.

    Ive made financial gain through buying my first house, a council house back in 84 ever since. My family and I will be forever in the Conservatives debt.

    'Thatcher, a fascist dictator'. A strange thing to say.

    It was her back stabbing colleagues who pushed her over the cliff, not the electorate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    It was her back stabbing colleagues who pushed her over the cliff
    thankfully old age will finish her off

    and to think the tories didnt buy your vote..at least this government havent got nothing left to give away and buy another generations vote
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Thatcher's popularity waned amid recession and high unemployment, until economic recovery and the 1982 Falklands War brought a resurgence of support resulting in her re-election in 1983.
    She used a war , and peoples lives , to win back support.
    The general consensus is, she would probably have lost the next election.
    The electorate never got the chance, her own cronies knew they would lose, and so got rid of her.
    As for council housing, it was designed for the less well off, so they may have a chance of decent adequate accommodation.
    Council houses should never have been allowed to be sold off.
    She sold off the family sliver, the countries assets, and the only winners are the privatised industries and corporates.
    The service provided by these privatised industries and corporates, is no better, infact generaly speaking it is worse, But the cost is much higher.
    Many of the UK’s industries were owned by the state, and all of their profits went straight into funding public services.
    As well as providing employment, which in turn, generates wealth, and a source of tax.
    As anybody that is in business or has been will tell you, you have to speculate to give the opportuninty to accumulate.

    Because you made money from it, does not make it right, if you'll pardon me for saying it, it only shows, an I'm alright Jack, pull up the ladder attitude.
    You are correct about people wanting to come to the UK, however during the time that both Thatcher and Major were in power, brits were leaving in record numbers.
    During 1991 to 1997, 2.5 million immigrants entered the UK.
    When Labour were returned to power, the brits started to return, and even tho the Tories use immigration to slate and berate the last government, the actual number for the whole term of labour, was 2.2 million.

    The national debt, and Government spending.
    We have had national debt for 200 out of the last 250 years in the UK.
    The UK debt is not by the far the highest, when compared to other countries.
    The last government borrowed no more than the previous Bunch for most of their term in office, it was not untill the world recession hit, and the banks went into crisis, that is actualy started to go up.
    Rightly or wrongly, the Government effectively took ownership and bailed some out. Northern Rock plc being a prime example, had they not,many thousands would have lost everything.
    If they had not, the impact on the economy, would have been dramatic , to say the least.
    All politicians, with the exception of a few, are only looking after themselves,
    I stated before, I only see the labour, lib dems as the lesser of the evils.
    I stand by my words, Thatcher was a fascist dictator, a view shared by many of her own former cronies, as well as the public at large.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Toneec View Post
    gWaPito

    She sold off the family sliver, the countries assets,
    Forget the silver - who sold off the countries gold assets ? Oh yes Missing Man Bottler Brown in 1999 for a paltry £2.3 billion which would now have fetched £12.95 billion. His next project was to fcuk up our pensions.....................


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    Quote Originally Posted by branno View Post
    michael foot... you are greatly and sadly missed i
    He didn't get very far as Party Leader, though ... did he?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    thankfully old age will finish her off
    ... old age finishes most of us off!


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    sadly and a great shame he never did... but if he had off .... wot a leader he would of been


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    Quote Originally Posted by Toneec View Post
    gWaPito
    Thatcher's popularity waned amid recession and high unemployment, until economic recovery and the 1982 Falklands War brought a resurgence of support resulting in her re-election in 1983.
    She used a war , and peoples lives , to win back support.
    The general consensus is, she would probably have lost the next election.
    The electorate never got the chance, her own cronies knew they would lose, and so got rid of her.
    As for council housing, it was designed for the less well off, so they may have a chance of decent adequate accommodation.
    Council houses should never have been allowed to be sold off.
    She sold off the family sliver, the countries assets, and the only winners are the privatised industries and corporates.
    The service provided by these privatised industries and corporates, is no better, infact generaly speaking it is worse, But the cost is much higher.
    Many of the UK’s industries were owned by the state, and all of their profits went straight into funding public services.
    As well as providing employment, which in turn, generates wealth, and a source of tax.
    As anybody that is in business or has been will tell you, you have to speculate to give the opportuninty to accumulate.

    Because you made money from it, does not make it right, if you'll pardon me for saying it, it only shows, an I'm alright Jack, pull up the ladder attitude.
    You are correct about people wanting to come to the UK, however during the time that both Thatcher and Major were in power, brits were leaving in record numbers.
    During 1991 to 1997, 2.5 million immigrants entered the UK.
    When Labour were returned to power, the brits started to return, and even tho the Tories use immigration to slate and berate the last government, the actual number for the whole term of labour, was 2.2 million.

    The national debt, and Government spending.
    We have had national debt for 200 out of the last 250 years in the UK.
    The UK debt is not by the far the highest, when compared to other countries.
    The last government borrowed no more than the previous Bunch for most of their term in office, it was not untill the world recession hit, and the banks went into crisis, that is actualy started to go up.
    Rightly or wrongly, the Government effectively took ownership and bailed some out. Northern Rock plc being a prime example, had they not,many thousands would have lost everything.
    If they had not, the impact on the economy, would have been dramatic , to say the least.
    All politicians, with the exception of a few, are only looking after themselves,
    I stated before, I only see the labour, lib dems as the lesser of the evils.
    I stand by my words, Thatcher was a fascist dictator, a view shared by many of her own former cronies, as well as the public at large.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Forget the silver - who sold off the countries gold assets ? Oh yes Missing Man Bottler Brown in 1999 for a paltry £2.3 billion which would now have fetched £12.95 billion. His next project was to fcuk up our pensions.....................
    id seriously look now... wot the government is doing to ur pension now ..... if u have one left by the time they are voted out ...


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    Good post Toneec Can anybody remember the last decent govt


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    Dedworth, I totaly agree with you, For every action there is an reaction. I'm not gonna defend Brown over the gold sale, it was without question a very bad call. It would be easy to add a bunch of what if's and but's, in the end it should not have happened, he was advised not to do it, Gold reserves are probably the best hedge to inflation you can have. While gold will not earn as such, it can be used to earn. So the question will allways remain, why did he take such a risk. Likewise with the pension plunder, Pension Funds should be untouchable and protected. The sad truth is, our political system stinks, politicians are not really held accountable as such, about the worse that can happen, is they don't get voted back in, but they still go on, and attract huge salaries. Personally I consider them all with hardly any exception, as being lying hypocrites. If it was not for the fact we can tell when they are lying, ( you can see their lips move) we would be totaly without hope.
    When you watch PM's question time, it defies belief, that those muppets are left to run the country, Myself i would think twice before i left any of them in charge of an hotdog stall.


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    Good post.


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