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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Another gang of 8 non westerners remanded in custody last week
    how do you know they are non westerners dedworth

    might have been born here
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    how do you know they are non westerners dedworth

    might have been born here


    Dail Mail's got pics of those up in Stafford Court (who may or may not have been born in the UK )

    'Sex gang groomed girls of 13': Asian men accused of luring teens and turning them into prostitutes

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1PL1zPNsx


    Worringly I can't spot any mention of them being remanded in custody


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    Thank goodness there are people like you with their eyes open Dedworth, and who take such issues seriously.

    It is not a laughing matter.


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    no its not a laughing matter, i've got a 11yr old daughter , but i like to know how dedworth knows their not british
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Thank goodness there are people like you with their eyes open Dedworth, and who take such issues seriously.

    It is not a laughing matter.
    whos laughing i would prefer more balance to the posting in this forum on these topics.

    as much as you guys try to say its got nothing to do with race the more it sounds like it and im sure you would want dedworth to get his facts right...
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    No, you would just like people to agree with you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    No, you would just like people to agree with you.
    not really, crime being committed by any one bothers me...i find the topics some of you debate rather tiresome including this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    no its not a laughing matter, i've got a 11yr old daughter , but i like to know how dedworth knows their not british

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I mentioned "British" but stated "Westerners" in the context of someones ethnicity. It would appear that the people both convicted, bailed and on trial for these depraved offences are of Pakistani origin (I draw this conclusion from their names and/or photographs)

    5 more mug shots/names from last year (Rotherham) here

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-young-12.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    not really, crime being committed by any one bothers me...i find the topics some of you debate rather tiresome including this one.
    Well you know what to do then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Well you know what to do then.
    what is that

    you dont seem to have a problem posting your views on other subjects in the past, we both know we dont agree on this sort of stuff...should that stop us debating a subject?, because thats all we are doing

    i never agree with dedworth and he knows that but that never stops using the forum
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    the context of this thread is sex crimes
    Korek
    as much as you guys try to say its got nothing to do with race
    You there.....yes YOU at the back of the class....catch-up Of COURSE its to do with race caucasian kids are being groomed by gangs of males of predominantly pakistani origine,thats irrefutable fact



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I mentioned "British" but stated "Westerners" in the context of someones ethnicity. It would appear that the people both convicted, bailed and on trial for these depraved offences are of Pakistani origin (I draw this conclusion from their names and/or photographs)

    5 more mug shots/names from last year (Rotherham) here

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-young-12.html
    dedworth i know you said westerners, but that's the first time you've said that and not british
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Korek

    You there.....yes YOU at the back of the class....catch-up Of COURSE its to do with race caucasian kids are being groomed by gangs of males of predominantly pakistani origine,thats irrefutable fact
    straight talking teacher Tawi2, that's what i was expecting from dedworth, but he was being too PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Korek

    You there.....yes YOU at the back of the class....catch-up Of COURSE its to do with race caucasian kids are being groomed by gangs of males of predominantly pakistani origine,thats irrefutable fact
    Yep that is the crux of it and we should not be afraid of saying that-it's not Racist or non pc it's a fact


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    why does tawi have such a big problem with his topic, i always thought you was smarter than that

    for someone so well travelled you seem to forget all the westerners (i think their called sex tourist) heading out to the far east to have their way with young kids of a different colour...gary glitter springs to mind.
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    why does tawi have such a big problem with his topic
    Walang problema BAB,but your vacillating way off subject,try to concentrate,this thread nor the media articles werent/arent about western sex-tourists(Thats next weeks class)this is about racist sexual predation of caucasian females by pakistani nationals or british guys of pakistani descent,thats simplified it,I have no problem,I dont even have a gary glitter record



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    horrible subject but an interesting point made by Bornatbirth about sex tourists.. and not only tourists Westerners are not exactly squeeky clean, indeed several of the pattaya hotspots and some well known HK girlie bars are invested by westerners making lots of money exploiting vurnerable girls. On the main topic the Police inspector summed it up for ... too many witness/potential witnesses not coming forward for fear of being branded racist BRITAIN is primarily caucasian is it not? yet people feel intimidated into not speaking up.....crazy
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    i didnt think tawi did insulting

    can you start paying attention at the front of the class too?

    try rereading the thread again i think graham said its about religion not race, which is it....
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    some well known HK girlie bars are invested by westerners making lots of money exploiting vurnerable girls.
    I never saw any of them employing 12-15 year old kids and I also used to know Pinays who came to Honkers on tourist visas to work in them of their own free will BAB is right though,I do have a problem with child sex predators,but there again,I think any right minded parent does



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    religion not race
    You might just find its about BOTH I think 56 gang-members have been prosecuted for such crimes,50 of these were pakistani origin,all were islamic,theres a pattern developing there,race AND religion and I dont have a downer on pakistanis,one of my best mates is one,but I DO have a problem with scum like the ones mentioned in the newspaper reports



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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Yep that is the crux of it and we should not be afraid of saying that-it's not Racist or non pc it's a fact
    i agree with you Les, people died for your right to free speech
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    nobody likes peadophiles, this whole topic gets mixed up into grey areas...can we not debate it without getting mad at other

    it is true that young white girls are being targeted by them due to the easy access and the parents not knowing what their kids are upto.
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    the worst part of all of this issue is that these Asian muslims despite living in the UK probably a long time soem of them THINK that western girls are LESSER than their own women and somehow that this is okay Either their ubringing and belief system teaches them that and therefore why the hell do we tolearate it.. or perhaps they are just taking advantage of the many many vurnerable girls from unsettled backgrounds, poorly educated, parented and badly let down by the western society WE are all part of .. so therefore did we allow the creation of the opportunity for these sick b@stards to carry these crimes out. My personal view is that their behaviour is learnt behaviour deeply ingrained and until we challenge a faith system that condones such thinking it will continue. If a school in the mainstream taught their boys that it was okay to treat the girls of another ethnic group like dirt they would be closed down.
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    I don't think there are any grey areas other than going off on a tangent about S E Asian Sex tourism.

    As Tawi says there is a pattern that the groomers are Paskistani and Muslim - the other part of the pattern he missed out was that up to now all these cases have been in the North of England. Up until not much more than 14/15 months ago the subject was very taboo because Labour would tar those raising it with the racist brush


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    scott&ligaya...Spot on.

    Thanks for saving me a lot of typing, and risking being banned.


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    scott&ligaya...Spot on.
    Saved me typing the same too,Bang on with that Explanation


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    Mohammed Shafiq, director of the Lancashire-based Ramadhan Foundation, a charity working for peaceful harmony between different communities, has said: ‘I think the police are overcautious because they are afraid of being branded racist. These men are criminals and should be treated as criminals — whatever their race.’

    In Derby this week, Shokat Lal, chairman of the city’s Pakistani Community Centre in the Normanton area — where many of the girls were taken to seedy flats and then sexually attacked by the gang – spoke out, too: ‘It is important that political correctness or fear of offending any particular group of people does not get in the way of protecting those who are vulnerable.
    ‘This is not an issue of race or .religion, but about right and wrong, and people committing criminal acts. Vulnerable girls are being exploited for sex. We must stand together as one, people of all backgrounds, to denounce these vile acts.’

    As Tawi says there is a pattern that the groomers are Paskistani and Muslim - the other part of the pattern he missed out was that up to now all these cases have ben in the North of England
    I never mentioned the northern england element to the story for fear of being branded racist against northerners



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    I believe the Mods here are generally fair and respect a sensible arguement being put forward so as long as you apply some form of reason or logic to your point I think no one should risk banning... however contentious the topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    scott&ligaya...Spot on.

    Thanks for saving me a lot of typing, and risking being banned.
    i only ban spammers and people who join just to cause trouble...

    free speech graham, no risk of me banning you
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    Thanks Joe.


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