Seen friends of mine in the past die from drugs/alcohol, they know they risks but choose to continue. Amy had one good album, that's it, hardly anyone will remember her in 5 years.
The '27 Club' is just a statistical blip, nothing more.
Seen friends of mine in the past die from drugs/alcohol, they know they risks but choose to continue. Amy had one good album, that's it, hardly anyone will remember her in 5 years.
The '27 Club' is just a statistical blip, nothing more.
Keith - Administrator
Originally Posted by Tawi2
Deeply profound Moy
Me too, seen plenty of my friends die from drugs/alcohol all too soon.
Wouldn't agree that's it's a true and simple choice though.
Sorry to say this but the only way anyone can truly understand the real and ultimate power and corruption of addiction is to actually experience it . PERIOD
Amy Whitehouse was singing and songwriting since the age of 13 yrs. She was passionate about her music. But she had a flawed character.
In her short "commercial" time she had TWO albums
2003: Frank
This album received a number of "awards" including an Ivor Novello Award.
It was a triple platinum seller meaning sales in excess of 900,000 copies in the UK.
Here's what wikipedia says:-
During the release of Amy's second album "Back to Black", the album "Frank" re-entered UK charts at N0.22 and became a firm mainstay throughout 2007.
As of November 2007 it had sold a total of 495,891 copies in the UK. As of mid-March 2008, it had sold 675,000 copies in the UK, and had sold 362,700 since February 2007, making it 2007's 37th biggest-selling album, despite its original release four years earlier. It sold a further 228,000 copies in 2008, five years after its release. The album sold approximately 22,000 copies in its first week of release in the United States. Following the 2008 Grammy Awards, the album re-entered the chart and climbed to number 67. It has sold a total of 307,000 copies in the United States.[22]
2006: Back to Black
Again according to wikipedia:-
Back to Black was named one of the ten-best albums of 2006 by several publications on their year-end albums lists, including The Austin Chronicle (number four), Billboard Magazine (number three), Blender Magazine (number eight), Slant Magazine (number four), Entertainment Weekly (number two), The New York Times (number three)[43] and Time Magazine (number one).[44] The album won numerous awards at the 50th Annual Grammy Awards, including Record of the Year and Song of the Year for her hit single "Rehab"; while the album received nominations for Album of the Year and Best Pop Vocal Album, winning the latter. Winehouse herself, for the album, was presented the Grammy for Best New Artist; Ronson himself earned the 2008 Grammy Award for "Producer of the Year, Non-Classical".[45][46] In July 2007, the album made the shortlist for the 2007 Mercury Music Prize. Other nominees included the eventual winners Klaxons, Dizzee Rascal, and the incumbent winner Arctic Monkeys. This is the second time Winehouse has been nominated for the Mercury Music Prize; her debut album Frank was shortlisted in 2004. This album was ranked number forty on Rolling Stone's list of the Top 50 Albums of 2007.[47] Entertainment Weekly critic Chris Willman ranked Back to Black #2 in the 10 BEST 'Records of the Year: Music' writing, "Black will hold up as one of the great breakthrough CDs of our time." He adds, "In the end, the singer's real-life heartache over her incarcerated spouse proves what's obvious from the grooves: When this lady sings about love, she means every word". VH1 named the album 10th Greatest Record Ever Made. Rolling Stone's list of 100 Best Albums of the Decade, from 2000–2009, ranked the album at number 20.[48]
Doesn't anyone know realise, or acknowledge that the influence she alone had on the music industry is just MASSIVE.
Look, Adele, Duffy, Lily Allen, Eliza Doolittle, Little Boots, Rumer, Ellie, VV Brown, Florence and the Machine, La Roux , Little Boots and even Lady Gaga owe such a lot to
the Amy Winehouse moment. All of these people owe most of their success to the music, style, attitude and influence of Amy Winehouse.
As for commercial albums, yes she had 2. So what?
Here are some other facts, just for the record:-
Lagy Gaga has 3 albums
Adele has 2 albums
Duffy has 2 albums
Lily Allen 2 albums
VV Brown has 2 albums
Eliza Doolittle has 1 album
Rumer has 1 album
Ellie has 1 album
Little boots has 1 album
La Roux has 1 album
Florence and the Machine has 1 album
Again so what?? Who will ever remember any of us when we are gone??
When you say "The '27 Club' is just a statistical blip, nothing more."
Then here at least I can totally agree.
It neither says nor means anything. PERIOD
I like her Music and hopefully in time she would have had many more albums for us to enjoy.
What i really liked about her was that she was different,unique and if she stuck two fingers up to society or annoying journalists then good luck to her
Everyone is having a go at her addiction but if you die from smoking (a very damaging addiction) thats ok
only one thing that i could saytoo much love will kill you
i mean alcohol/drug
No, it's not ok to die from smoking Les (especially for those loved ones you leave behind), but it does give one an understanding of addiction.
Perhaps that's why I'm a bit of a 'fire and brimstone' preacher as regards the evils of drugs and alcohol where my boy is concerned.
The amount of alcohol consumed by youngsters is just downright frightening these days.
I know Amy Winehouse as a singer/composer but I only know one or two of her songs probably...Rehab is the only one that I can remember...when I told my siblings about her death, they all said "who is she?, what are her songs?"
-=rayna.keith=-
...When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible...
As you can imagine a typical Saturday night in town is Horrendous these daysNo, it's not ok to die from smoking Les (especially for those loved ones you leave behind), but it does give one an understanding of addiction.
Perhaps that's why I'm a bit of a 'fire and brimstone' preacher as regards the evils of drugs and alcohol where my boy is concerned.
The amount of alcohol consumed by youngsters is just downright frightening these days.
So many people are completely wasted so early on-I will be embarrassed when one day my girl comes over here
ones reason is that addiction and mental illness are often found together making it more difficult for them to quit ,
We came here to UK from Japan which is a BIG time alcohol culture. Still I had a major problem to explain the drunken behaviour here. Carina was very used to seeing people drinking too much, but she was totally shocked at the hostile and violent behaviour here.
It's often as we get older we form these opinions-when i was a young man Friday and Saturday night i had plenty
The difference I see nowadays is the youngsters get cheap booze from the supermarkets,then go out on the lash and are completely wasted by midnight.
We also had our sport and altough we had many beers we were home at 02.30 and had to get up for the 11am Sunday kick off which certainly cleared our heads
And as for the pretty girls covered in tatoos whats going on it looks gross.
We are in a mess and how we going to sort it?
i watched the beeb news this morning, Kate Siliverton said there is a theory about the 27 club, didn't hear all of it, but from what i heard , i think for some people after 10yrs (presuming they become addicted at 17) of addiction its taken its toll on them and that's when they are at their lowest
Lots of suicides are from people in their 50s as they think seen it all,done it all so whats the point downhill from now,happened to a good friend of mine
I just wish I could turn back the clock 7 years and say Nigel come to the Philippines with me and it will change your outlook on life
I truly believe if we had done that my mate would still be here today!
My uncle killed himself,late 40's.nothing to do with addiction,he saw action abroad,something that troubled him i am sure,he had a personal demon,who knows what makes a person call time.Lots of suicides are from people in their 50s as they think seen it all,done it all
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Sad to hear that anyone who sees action abroad has my utmost respect.
I always wished I had joined the army like my brother
the question isexist
C'mon, firstly, how is the sample subset of population going to be defined??i watched the beeb news this morning, Kate Siliverton said there is a theory about the 27 club, didn't hear all of it, but from what i heard , i think for some people after 10yrs (presuming they become addicted at 17) of addiction its taken its toll on them and that's when they are at their lowest
How about if I said that from a sample of 100 world famous dead rock stars 96 of them died at an age that wasn't 27 what would you say?
Not TV style demonsdoes really demon existI mean some people have dark personalities or thoughts
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
i think she said she had been to a psychologist meeting weeks b4, and this was mentioned, not about pop stars, but about being addicted for 10yrs, for many people that's when they were at one of their lowest points.
10 yrs of being addicted I'm sure for some people will physically as well as mentally destroy them. addiction took 20yrs to kill my younger brother, but then he didn't live the fast pace life style of a 'pop star' or have their finances to accelerate his death.
Not TV style demons
I know very very well the pain of that joe.
It never leaves me.
March 2008 for my little brother. I don't need anyone to explain anything about addiction and the consequencies.
sorry guys but im deeply curious why do people used drugs anyway..ive never try even once
never had alcohol or tobacco?sorry guys but im deeply curious why do people used drugs anyway..ive never try even once
zero..
Or tea or coffee,check out the definition of drug.never had alcohol or tobacco?
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
""A drug, broadly speaking, is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function.[3] There is no single, precise definition, as there are different meanings in drug control law, government regulations, medicine, and colloquial usage.[4]"
come on tawi babe..you know what the discussion in here was about..lolz..daft..
daft
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
i think its 5yrs or so for me, i had to go and ID his body and on the table in his bedsit was a certificate that he was given only a week or so b4 for being drug free for a few months, looks like he couldn't quit, and the dose that his body over 20yrs could handle b4, killed him this time, at least the hell is over for him ..
consequences terpe are still carrying on to this day
sorry for your loss terpe, time is a great healer, but the scars never fade
Sad news indeed, but the cause of death will remain unexplained for a week or more AFTER next week's post mortem examination. Full examination with photography and dissection of the body alone will take several hours of at least one Home Office pathologist's time. Following that, samples for toxicology and microscopic examination will be essential to determine accurately the cause(s) of death. There are a number of possible natural or suspicious causes for death which need to be ruled out before concluding that drugs and / or alcohol were the causes - even if the latter may seem most likely.Sad news,I was just listening to her on the radio yesterday,poor kid
If indeed illegal drugs are found to have contributed, it will fuel the debate on whether or not to decriminalise or legalise such drugs. Could further lives be saved, and the current 75,000 young people in the UK getting criminal records each year be helped, if such drugs were decriminalised ? They would still be illegal but dealt with in a civil system, with a fine and treatment in specialist clinics ( " rehab " ), together with needle exchange schemes. Some users at least could openly seek help, without fear of jail. This works in Portugal and Switzerland.
There is, however, no simple answer. Those most in favour of decriminalisation / legalisation ( such as Virgin boss Richard Branson ) often live far from the drug problem, addicts, and dealers. Heroin use in the UK involves around 1% of the population ( compare that with alcohol abuse / smoking ). If it was legalised, logically every other illegal drug, and future drugs, should follow suit. The worry about legalisation is that levels of " recreational " ( but dangerous ) drug use might increase. It's seen as a dangerous strategy by experts such as Professor Neil McKegeny at Glasgow University. He and others are closer to the problem than Branson, Kofi Annan, and the Prime Minister of Greece, who are on the Global Commission on Drugs currently debating it.
R.I.P. Amy Winehouse.
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