Tottenham riots last night........

[sars_notd_virus]

It was unusual as Zars comments usually display considerable erudition.

Its been brewing for years and the authorities have been warned but chose to ignore it and even aspirate it by closing the youth centers and reducing funds to these type of youth programme, Mabey the goverment are giving the public a reason to cry out for a police state, Mind what you wish for ect...
If it wasn't for the fact that many people have mind numbing jobs just about earning enough to fulfill thier responsibilites to feed mouths and pay ever inflating prices for gas, electric, petrol. tax ect. I believe there would be more out on the streets, again possible what the government are pushing for.
Are the real criminals in the 24hr court like the bankers that let the money crisis happen, People lost thier homes and jobs and some committed suicide over it, No they are sat in their little mansions in Kensington, If there was trouble there I bet Johncar and his police buddies would react a lot quicker and more robustly


Just because you gave a few lectures doesn't mean you are right johncar!!... just means you were complicit.

com·plic·it (km-plst)
adj.
Associated with or participating in a questionable act or a crime; having complicity: newspapers complicit with the propaganda arm of a dictatorship. Or Goverment

[Dedworth]

Its been brewing for years and the authorities have been warned but chose to ignore it and even aspirate it buy closing the youth centers and reducing funds to these type of youth programme, Mabey the goverment are giving the public a reason to cry out for a police state, Mind what you wish for ect...
If it wasn't for the fact that many people have mind numbing jobs just about earning enough to fulfill thier responsibilites to feed mouths and pay ever inflating prices for gas, electric, petrol. tax ect. I believe there would be more out on the streets, again possible what the government are pushing for.
Are the real criminals in the 24hr court like the bankers that let the money crisis happen, People lost thier homes and jobs and some committed suicide over it, No they are sat in their little mansions in Kensington, If there was trouble there I bet Johncar and his police buddies would react a lot quicker and more robustly


Just because you gave a few lectures doesn't mean you are right johncar!!... just means you were complicit.

com·plic·it (km-plst)
adj.
Associated with or participating in a questionable act or a crime; having complicity: newspapers complicit with the propaganda arm of a dictatorship. Or Goverment

There was no council housing, nhs, benefits or nanny state in the 1930's. Plenty of real poverty, unemployment and depression - they didn't riot and loot though and nor was there a problem with illict drugs.

[sars_notd_virus]

There was no council housing, nhs, benefits or nanny state in the 1930's. Plenty of real poverty, unemployment and depression - they didn't riot and loot though and nor was there a problem with illict drugs.

yeah , I hear it was like that in the ''dark ages'' as well??,..guess that explains everything then,..good point !!!

[Dedworth]

yeah , I hear it was like that in the ''dark ages'' as well??,..guess that explains everything then,..good point !!!

Yup and there would still be a few penioners alive in the 30's who survived World War 2 getting by on a paltry £100 per week state pension cowering in their homes the other night as the scum rampaged outside.

[sars_notd_virus]

Let's all at least have the good manners to be polite to members

you may have hit the nail on the head Sars, about where you live

thanks steve and graham

[sars_notd_virus]

Are the real criminals in the 24hr court like the bankers that let the money crisis happen, People lost thier homes and jobs and some committed suicide over it, No they are sat in their little mansions in Kensington, If there was trouble there I bet Johncar and his police buddies would react a lot quicker and more robustly

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...low-simplistic

But he added: "Children's ideas of right and wrong don't just come from their parents. And we can't honestly say the greed, selfishness and gross irresponsibility that shocked us all so deeply is confined to the looters, or even to their parents.

"It's not the first time we've seen this kind of me first, take what you can culture. The bankers who took millions while destroying people's savings – greedy, selfish and immoral. The MPs who fiddled their expenses – greedy, selfish and immoral. The people who hacked phones to get stories to make money for themselves – greedy, selfish and immoral.

"People who talk about the sick behaviour of those without power should talk equally about the sick behaviour of those with power.

....Well he took his time saying it perhaps he reads this forum and reads my post ??

[Dedworth]

"It's not the first time we've seen this kind of me first, take what you can culture. The bankers who took millions while destroying people's savings – greedy, selfish and immoral. The MPs who fiddled their expenses – greedy, selfish and immoral. The people who hacked phones to get stories to make money for themselves – greedy, selfish and immoral.

The stench of Millipedes hypocrisy makes me want to throw up


1) his former boss Bottler Brown spent the best part of 13 years schmoozing and brown hatting the bankers.
2) Labour were the worst expenses abusers
3) Not many weeks ago Millipede and most of the shadow cabinet gorged themselves at Murdochs summer bash

[Russell_61]

I posted something similar on facebook three days ago and yesterday it appeared in Ed's speech!!!

Now where did I put my tin foil hat???

[Russell_61]

I'm responding to this post by the way hahahaha

But he added: "Children's ideas of right and wrong don't just come from their parents. And we can't honestly say the greed, selfishness and gross irresponsibility that shocked us all so deeply is confined to the looters, or even to their parents.

"It's not the first time we've seen this kind of me first, take what you can culture. The bankers who took millions while destroying people's savings – greedy, selfish and immoral. The MPs who fiddled their expenses – greedy, selfish and immoral. The people who hacked phones to get stories to make money for themselves – greedy, selfish and immoral.

"People who talk about the sick behaviour of those without power should talk equally about the sick behaviour of those with power.

[branno]

I'm responding to this post by the way hahahaha

But he added: "Children's ideas of right and wrong don't just come from their parents. And we can't honestly say the greed, selfishness and gross irresponsibility that shocked us all so deeply is confined to the looters, or even to their parents.

"It's not the first time we've seen this kind of me first, take what you can culture. The bankers who took millions while destroying people's savings – greedy, selfish and immoral. The MPs who fiddled their expenses – greedy, selfish and immoral. The people who hacked phones to get stories to make money for themselves – greedy, selfish and immoral.

"People who talk about the sick behaviour of those without power should talk equally about the sick behaviour of those with power.

i totally agree..

[johncar54]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...low-simplistic

But he added: "Children's ideas of right and wrong don't just come from their parents. And we can't honestly say the greed, selfishness and gross irresponsibility that shocked us all so deeply is confined to the looters, or even to their parents.

"It's not the first time we've seen this kind of me first, take what you can culture. The bankers who took millions while destroying people's savings – greedy, selfish and immoral. The MPs who fiddled their expenses – greedy, selfish and immoral. The people who hacked phones to get stories to make money for themselves – greedy, selfish and immoral.

"People who talk about the sick behaviour of those without power should talk equally about the sick behaviour of those with power.

....Well he took his time saying it perhaps he reads this forum and reads my post ??

Whilst of course one cannot draw a line between what did or did not influence those involved, I find it hard to accept that 'rather academic' argument.

In 1985 we did not have (or maybe did not know about) the bankers, MP etc, but the Broadwater Farm riot was no different in essence from the recent ones. A small supermarket was looted and set on fire.

The main difference was that it took place on a housing estate rather than amongst sports and electrical shops. However, as I explained earlier, that riot was planned to take place in Shopping City. Two police personnel carriers turning onto the estate, by mistake, caused a 'premature' kick off.