Great video and a job well done by that manOriginally Posted by les_taxi
The video is brill well done to the guy who took him out
Now he's on Youtube, he can no doubt expect a civil case for damages for infringing the poor looters civil liberties and false arrestI'm sure there will be lots of parasite barristers on a couple of grand a day who'll take up his cause
looks like its in americaGreat video and a job well done by that man
Now he's on Youtube, he can no doubt expect a civil case for damages for infringing the poor looters civil liberties and false arrest
i have learnt to do what my wife says!
Boris johnson, mayor of london, claims the the riots cud of been much worse if it wasnt for the congestion charge..
He also stated that he has instructed his own private company to create a multi million pound report to discover how many people actually arrived at the riots using personal vehicles..
are you sure les it was not vic rubbing mum on your chest
I remember going to school smelling of coal-tar soapand having my weekly comb through with a small-tooth metal Derbac when my mother was looking for lice
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Vancouver ice-hockey riots from earlier this year?Listen to the background accentslooks like its in america
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Hard times ?
Poverty ?
All I can say is, it's a good thing you didn't have my grandad's life...darn't pit.
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Eee them wert days.
For any of you that just watched the Malaysian kid on TV that got beaten up by the scum on the streets the other night.
He is everything that the hoodie yobs are not: polite, respectful, articulate and intelligent.
Not a coincidence that Malaysia sits close to the Philippines and many in the Phils are of Malayan descent.
If there was trouble there I bet Johncar and his police buddies would react a lot quicker and more robustly
Just because you gave a few lectures doesn't mean you are right johncar!!... just means you were complicit.
com·plic·it (km-plst)
adj.
Associated with or participating in a questionable act or a crime; having complicity: newspapers complicit with the propaganda arm of a dictatorship. Or Govermentyeah , I hear it was like that in the ''dark ages'' as well??,..guess that explains everything then,..good point !!!Pity not everyone noted Graham's post.thanks steve and graham
i agree a decent boy that any parent would be proud of, a total opposite of the scum cowards who are too cowardly to show their face hiding behind their hoods,
i think hoods, all covering of faces should be banned,(for any race or religion) with the exception of winter protection
rumouer has it that the roits will hit another level in the north east of england any time soon. apparently thousands of roit crazed yorkshire pensioners, most of them semi naked, brandishing knitting needles and blakberry smart phones, will take to the high streets in there 8 mph invalid cars and bring traffic to a stand still.. following yesterdays orgy of looting in charity shops.
the mood escalated today shortly after breakfast when a 78 year old with two walking stick nipped in to the benifits centre and demanded justice her friend a sprightly 98 year old demanded no more stop and search by the police on afternoons after bingo sessions and a repeal of the lord mayors hoodie ban.. no more tax on short breads and the legalisation of marijuana rights...and also called for free viagra for the over nineties and a proper subsidy for fruit flavoured condoms for all over 100 yrs of age...
another rioter, a heavily masked great grandmother miss privet, brandished a placard demanding the immidiate expulsion of all immigrants from the yorkshire coast.. " ive nothing against homosexuals and pink haired poofs," explained miss privet.. " but they come down to our coast and pinch all the jobs. then they open gay bars and then our tea shops go out of business.. out with the lot of them."
I think people had a whip round to replace the belongings that were stolen off him which was good. Hope his attackers get a good stretch behind bars!
They've caught the germ who stole from his rucksack and he's been remanded in custody but I don't think they've got his original attackers yet
http://www.channel4.com/news/man-due...aysian-student
Next time you see the malaysian student clip note the puddle of blood on the pavement behind him.
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Seeing the scum arrested is a lovely sight-not so tough now I see but I would still not let them keep their hoods up.
I would stop before the camera's pull his hood down and let us all get a good look at them.
From interviewing people in prison, who were convicted (pleaded guilty) in connection with the Broadwater Farm riots in 1985, I can say that many young blacks, not all, were totally unaffected by being locked up.
If my impression was correct, that means the threat of prison is not a deterrent and officialdom must look for other solutions.
Thats only because prisons are relatively soft these days.
If prisons were 'Bangkok Hiltons' and enforced hard labour and good old fashioned beatings were common place I think they would be viewed differently
Les, I agree that harder prison regimens may work. Although I believe even the tough prisons are full.
The problem is that it is almost impossible to say in UK that one section of the community are different in any way from other sections, thus one cannot even discuss what might be needed. And that is a real problem.
I would have it tough for all 'proper criminals' and thugs.
They would not want to go back so prisons would not be as full
Until it was tried we don't know what effects it would have on criminal behaviour, we can only surmise, and anyway, its not going to happen as we all know !I would have it tough for all 'proper criminals' and thugs.
They would not want to go back so prisons would not be as full
While I would wish for prison to help reform criminals I am just pleased to have them taken out of circulation, if they offend again then catch them and keep them in prison longer.
I would also like to see more restitution taken against all criminals to make sure crime does not pay.
I see your point but it might be more cost effective not to send offenders to prison (the cost is around £40,000 p.p. per year). So maybe pay them the £760 p w. prison would cost and fine them if they do anything wrong. (I am not serious, or at least I didn't think I was ...... )
As for them paying restitution. Most criminals who affect our every day life don't have anything. Blood from stones springs to mind.
Can't agree with that comment at all John.As for them paying restitution. Most criminals who affect our every day life don't have anything. Blood from stones springs to mind.
Any goods the criminal owns should be forfeited.
Certain things like Prisons and keeping these idiots of our streets is worth paying for and we could find the money if we have to.
What we need to do is make it loud and clear that crime does not pay and if you get caught after a lengthy tough jail term you won't want to reoffend.
If you do re-offend then let's chop a hand of as in Saudi
There is so much that could be done to 'clean up' our prisons, and ensure that prisoners find it a less than pleasant experience.
Firstly, STOP drugs being smuggled in !
Also, since it seems most of the people are in there because of drug use, DON'T release them until they are clean of drugs.
None of this should be beyond the wit of man.
Brilliant piece by Peter Oborne in the Telegraph. Agree with nearly every word: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/pe...as-the-bottom/
The moral decay of our society is as bad at the top as the bottom
David Cameron, Ed Miliband and the entire British political class came together yesterday to denounce the rioters. They were of course right to say that the actions of these looters, arsonists and muggers were abhorrent and criminal, and that the police should be given more support.
But there was also something very phony and hypocritical about all the shock and outrage expressed in parliament. MPs spoke about the week’s dreadful events as if they were nothing to do with them.
I cannot accept that this is the case. Indeed, I believe that the criminality in our streets cannot be dissociated from the moral disintegration in the highest ranks of modern British society. The last two decades have seen a terrifying decline in standards among the British governing elite. It has become acceptable for our politicians to lie and to cheat. An almost universal culture of selfishness and greed has grown up.
It is not just the feral youth of Tottenham who have forgotten they have duties as well as rights. So have the feral rich of Chelsea and Kensington. A few years ago, my wife and I went to a dinner party in a large house in west London. A security guard prowled along the street outside, and there was much talk of the “north-south divide”, which I took literally for a while until I realised that my hosts were facetiously referring to the difference between those who lived north and south of Kensington High Street.
Most of the people in this very expensive street were every bit as deracinated and cut off from the rest of Britain as the young, unemployed men and women who have caused such terrible damage over the last few days. For them, the repellent Financial Times magazine How to Spend It is a bible. I’d guess that few of them bother to pay British tax if they can avoid it, and that fewer still feel the sense of obligation to society that only a few decades ago came naturally to the wealthy and better off.
Yet we celebrate people who live empty lives like this. A few weeks ago, I noticed an item in a newspaper saying that the business tycoon Sir Richard Branson was thinking of moving his headquarters to Switzerland. This move was represented as a potential blow to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, because it meant less tax revenue.
I couldn’t help thinking that in a sane and decent world such a move would be a blow to Sir Richard, not the Chancellor. People would note that a prominent and wealthy businessman was avoiding British tax and think less of him. Instead, he has a knighthood and is widely feted. The same is true of the brilliant retailer Sir Philip Green. Sir Philip’s businesses could never survive but for Britain’s famous social and political stability, our transport system to shift his goods and our schools to educate his workers.
Yet Sir Philip, who a few years ago sent an extraordinary £1 billion dividend offshore, seems to have little intention of paying for much of this. Why does nobody get angry or hold him culpable? I know that he employs expensive tax lawyers and that everything he does is legal, but he surely faces ethical and moral questions just as much as does a young thug who breaks into one of Sir Philip’s shops and steals from it?
Our politicians – standing sanctimoniously on their hind legs in the Commons yesterday – are just as bad. They have shown themselves prepared to ignore common decency and, in some cases, to break the law. David Cameron is happy to have some of the worst offenders in his Cabinet. Take the example of Francis Maude, who is charged with tackling public sector waste – which trade unions say is a euphemism for waging war on low‑paid workers. Yet Mr Maude made tens of thousands of pounds by breaching the spirit, though not the law, surrounding MPs’ allowances.
A great deal has been made over the past few days of the greed of the rioters for consumer goods, not least by Rotherham MP Denis MacShane who accurately remarked, “What the looters wanted was for a few minutes to enter the world of Sloane Street consumption.” This from a man who notoriously claimed £5,900 for eight laptops. Of course, as an MP he obtained these laptops legally through his expenses.
Yesterday, the veteran Labour MP Gerald Kaufman asked the Prime Minister to consider how these rioters can be “reclaimed” by society. Yes, this is indeed the same Gerald Kaufman who submitted a claim for three months’ expenses totalling £14,301.60, which included £8,865 for a Bang & Olufsen television.
Or take the Salford MP Hazel Blears, who has been loudly calling for draconian action against the looters. I find it very hard to make any kind of ethical distinction between Blears’s expense cheating and tax avoidance, and the straight robbery carried out by the looters.
The Prime Minister showed no sign that he understood that something stank about yesterday’s Commons debate. He spoke of morality, but only as something which applies to the very poor: “We will restore a stronger sense of morality and responsibility – in every town, in every street and in every estate.” He appeared not to grasp that this should apply to the rich and powerful as well.
The tragic truth is that Mr Cameron is himself guilty of failing this test. It is scarcely six weeks since he jauntily turned up at the News International summer party, even though the media group was at the time subject to not one but two police investigations. Even more notoriously, he awarded a senior Downing Street job to the former News of the World editor Andy Coulson, even though he knew at the time that Coulson had resigned after criminal acts were committed under his editorship. The Prime Minister excused his wretched judgment by proclaiming that “everybody deserves a second chance”. It was very telling yesterday that he did not talk of second chances as he pledged exemplary punishment for the rioters and looters.
These double standards from Downing Street are symptomatic of widespread double standards at the very top of our society. It should be stressed that most people (including, I know, Telegraph readers) continue to believe in honesty, decency, hard work, and putting back into society at least as much as they take out.
But there are those who do not. Certainly, the so-called feral youth seem oblivious to decency and morality. But so are the venal rich and powerful – too many of our bankers, footballers, wealthy businessmen and politicians.
Of course, most of them are smart and wealthy enough to make sure that they obey the law. That cannot be said of the sad young men and women, without hope or aspiration, who have caused such mayhem and chaos over the past few days. But the rioters have this defence: they are just following the example set by senior and respected figures in society. Let’s bear in mind that many of the youths in our inner cities have never been trained in decent values. All they have ever known is barbarism. Our politicians and bankers, in sharp contrast, tend to have been to good schools and universities and to have been given every opportunity in life.
Something has gone horribly wrong in Britain. If we are ever to confront the problems which have been exposed in the past week, it is essential to bear in mind that they do not only exist in inner-city housing estates.
The culture of greed and impunity we are witnessing on our TV screens stretches right up into corporate boardrooms and the Cabinet. It embraces the police and large parts of our media. It is not just its damaged youth, but Britain itself that needs a moral reformation.
Yep, like with so many things though, we (that is, the establishment and ruling class) are confused about where we stand on these things. There is confusion about what prisons are for and confusion about whether drug users are victims or criminals. I say prisons are for punishment and deterrence. You should *fear* going to prison. The conditions should be tough and austere. Rehabilitation should be secondary to this. Secondly, drug possesion is a criminal offence and should therefore be punished accordingly. It is absurd that someone like Pete Doherty can be up before a judge on over a dozen occasions and he doesn't get sent down! What incentive to change his behaviour in that circumstance?There is so much that could be done to 'clean up' our prisons, and ensure that prisoners find it a less than pleasant experience.
Firstly, STOP drugs being smuggled in !
Also, since it seems most of the people are in there because of drug use, DON'T release them until they are clean of drugs.
None of this should be beyond the wit of man.
Plus...what kind of EXAMPLE is he setting ?
It's more a cultural issue I'd say.
Branno,
I keep getting this feeling that you're not a fan of DC
im saying nothing ...Branno,
I keep getting this feeling that you're not a fan of DC
still they cudnt wipe the slate clean about thatcher and ronnie raygun been responsible for mitt romey ehh ..:}
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