... because - whatever else they are- they're certainly well-paid.
... because - whatever else they are
Correct, Graham ...Originally Posted by grahamw48
Aye...plenty of overtime.
One of the problems in UK is that some (maybe many) members of the immigrant community (and I include their offspring) have over the years established the right to be treated differently from the average citizen.
Why should any group expect to be provided with public money to support their (alien) community and the way of life they may have had before they arrived? Why should they be able to demand that the system be changed to suit them?
When a person settles in UK they get all the rights that everyone has, free education, free health service, social security benefits etc. So why should they demand and get more? But they do and they will continue to do so.
I live in Spain. If I am lucky I get a fair deal compared with Spaniards. I am grateful for that, I do not expect to get a better deal.
spot on John, it is the demanding more and more... and getting it that really winds me up. I mean Sharia law zones !!!!!! I cannot believe we even allow the posting of the flyers.
Live your life for a reason and don't worry be happy
if you don't know where you are going then any road will do!!
BUT How CAN IT BE CHANGED that is my question for my fellow forummers.. assuming that you would want to change something... it`s after all easy for us to sit here and complain about stuff. who has the solution and the inclination to change it.. I will say now . not me.. too busy providing for my family... and looking for a way out of here.. yes cowardly if you like, easier to run than fight..probably but I am expressing my free will before we do not have any.
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Live your life for a reason and don't worry be happy
if you don't know where you are going then any road will do!!
I don't know for sure what a copper gets paid in UK today, but from conversations with officers who are currently serving, I don't think they get as good a deal as I got. I retired in 1988 and was getting something like £3,500 a year rent tax free allowance. That for sure does not exist any more, neither does free housing. Also I believe on promotion now they must sign up for a three contract, again I was virtually guaranteed a job until I retired at 30 years service.with you about their [oft' times] difficult jobs ... but not quite so sure about the "scant reward" ...
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It was also a lot less dangerous then to be a copper and in general they had the support of the public, unlike now. I would not recommend anyone to join up now. Thank God though many still do.
I suspect that the only way to prevent rioting is to have the power to order people to leave the area. (As it was Reading the Riot Act) If they did not do so within say 15 minutes, the force used should in effect be unlimited based on the fact anyone who chooses to ignore the order would be volunteering for what ever happened to them. Of course I am in reality just dreaming !!!!- Nothing of the sort will ever happen.
... that's MY philosophy too.
I can only imagine there eventually be some sort of civil war.
Sorry to sound so depressing but that's my opinion of the way things will eventually turn out,
Either that or we will get a very powerful right wing government one day and they will 'deal' with the situation
It's a bad state of affairs and of course when this all dies down we will all be happier but it will never go away and as the immigrant community grows and grows they will reach a size where their will of life will be imposed on us all I fear
Or eventually, the minority groups will take over and the indigenous Brits will be ignored and pushed to one side (Rather like the established 'class' in Southern Rhodesia, the wealth creators being expelled) or look at history, the Native Brits were replaced by the various invading hoards, Angles, Saxon, Vikings, Romans, French etc.I can only imagine there eventually be some sort of civil war.
Sorry to sound so depressing but that's my opinion of the way things will eventually turn out,
Either that or we will get a very powerful right wing government one day and they will 'deal' with the situation
It's a bad state of affairs and of course when this all dies down we will all be happier but it will never go away and as the immigrant community grows and grows they will reach a size where their will of life will be imposed on us all I fear
A very valid point
The answer to this is the Labour Party buying the immigrant vote and as you know they extended this by throwing open the floodgates to mass uncontrolled immigration thus having millions of future voters beholden to them.
I'm not really sure how many years it's been going on so it might be wrong to say the Tories haven't had the balls to change it - however I suspect they don't have them otherwise Human Rights legislation would be binned by now.
The original immigrants were brought to UK from West Indies after the war (early 50's I think) to do the jobs which the indigenous Brits either would not do or to fill the vacancies caused by the loss of male lives during the war.
The first wave were 'grateful' for their new jobs, worked hard, were law abiding and stayed in their jobs until retirement. Unfortunately it was the subsequent generations of UK born 'immigrants' (some of whom) were and are the problem.
... not forgetting the maraudng Picts & Scots
from across what is NOW regarded as being the border!!
a policemans lot is not an 'appy one... NOT according to Gilbert & Sullivan's 'Pirates of Penzance'.
Well it's 30 years since the classic horror movie 'The evil dead' came out so I will watch it to cheer myself up
Kicking off again,Hackney they looted JD Sports,smashed bus windows,looted other shops,burnt a car,its also going off in Lewisham.
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Shoot the ....ers
Its the frustration of the yoof,y'get me blood innit?
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Maybe if one of them fire-bombs hit the Houses of Parliament the spineless MPs will return from their holiday homes and do something about it.
...not that I'm holding my breath.
Things are shaping up for another Bosnia in a few years time.
Fear not,Mayor Boris has pledged to cut-short his valuable vacation time and return henceforth to londinium to quell the riot single handedthe spineless MPs will return from their holiday homes and do something about it.We need snatch-squads,water-cannon,and rubber bullets,oh and a modicum of tear-gas,they have had their fun,time for the gloves to come off
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Yep can see it,I'm fuming with whats going on and it's miles away from me.Maybe if one of them fire-bombs the Houses of Parliament the spineless MPs will return from their holiday homes and do something about it.
...not that I'm holding my breath.
Things are shaping up for another Bosnia in a few years time.
If i hear the phrase 'disaffected youths' again from idiots like that Jasper guy on sky earlier again I will blow a fuse!
Disaffected my .... just an excuse for crime
Perhaps we can ask NATO or the United Nations to intervene.
We have to change the rules of the game slightly,I just saw a pic on TV a Yoof has posted on facebook showing him posing at home beside his big pile of looted booty
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
The way it's going, they WILL have to bring the army in.
Theres just been a Hackney black youth leader on TV telling how the rioting Yoofs were equal % black and white
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
with live ammoThe way it's going, they WILL have to bring the army in.
Hmph ... 'disaffected youths'? More need to "disinfect those yobbos - with a good, bloody thrashing!
Well if they do I hope its the Ghurkas, they will show them what to do with knives.The way it's going, they WILL have to bring the army in.
Its all kicking off around me, lots of stuff not being reported, we have had to cancel a birthday celebration tonight due to gangs roaming London E18 and Woodford areas mugging anyone they come across.
My boys friend ,who is the manager of Edmonton Halfords, was there all night after they were ransacked, a local shopping precinct has been closed down. Shocking state of affairs.
The only answer I can come up with is its the hardworking honest people who should be out on the streets tearing up the `establishment` who got us into this mess.
Aaron Lennon takes it on his chest and brings it down, passes it to Bassong who runs with it before laying it off to Huddlestone, Defoe spots a window and makes a run, Huddlestone sees him and makes the pass and Defoe puts it away nicely. "Right lads," says Palacios, "let's get one more Plasma before the f*****g pigs get here.
Many a true word said in jest
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Watching the news tonight it looks as though the trouble is spreading to other London suburbs with diverse ethnic mixes. How long until we start seeing copycat riots in other cities with high proportions of non indigenous people as per the mid 1980's riots?
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