Tottenham riots last night........

[stevewool]

With 30 years experience of policing London, I can tell you that too, like others, is a naive thing to say.

Your comment was not even nearly correct in 1961 when I joined the force, long before the silly laws preventing smacking !!

we all have how our thoughts , and as you say you have experience, most of us dont, we are just trying to protect ourselves with what we have , all we see is what we are ment to see and how most of the police are now days well, were are they when you want one, yes a flipent remark by myself, i am just so glad i was not living in the area where this was going on,

[Dedworth]

Picture of ex looter in Haiti

[Arthur Little]

Picture of ex looter in Haiti

Don't get me wrong ... it's not that I'm condoning looting - far from it - but it never fails to astonish me how the media gets away with showing horrific pictures like this one ... while taking "great pains" to ensure the poor, unfortunate's gonads are covered up.

[Arthur Little]

And before anyone s in with some explanation like "it's in the interests of public decency" ... WHAT'S "decent" about allowing graphic images of "man's inhumanty to man" to be available for public display?

[johncar54]

John, the common people doesnt want war but the soldiers are being sent out to war
The police are more than happy enough policing the motorways
why not just admit the fact that the soldiers and the police share the same rules ''obey first before you complain''
..am sure with all the list of your achievements , you still follow and obey the rules of your commander in chief a higher and first ranker than you.

..I hope that this chaos and disturbances will be resolve soon...not good for our future generations to follow

Sorry Sars, I have read and re-read what you said and I cannot understand it.

[scott&ligaya]

I am with you Arthur, I do not believe that was helpful or decent Dedworth, in fact it would dissuade some people from supporting some of your points I would suggest

[scott&ligaya]

Indeed John, we may have slightly differing opinions on a specific matter but I too was struggling to get the point, but my suggestion is that the point was around following orders.. but to what end I am not sure. I think something was lost in the thought formed in Tagalog but writen in English.. not a criticsm Sars as your English is 1000% better than my attempts at Tagaog or Illocano

[johncar54]

Indeed John, we may have slightly differing opinions on a specific matter but I too was struggling to get the point, but my suggestion is that the point was around following orders.. but to what end I am not sure. I think something was lost in the thought formed in Tagalog but writen in English.. not a criticsm Sars as your English is 1000% better than my attempts at Tagaog or Illocano

It was unusual as Zars comments usually display considerable erudition.

[scott&ligaya]

again we agree

[Dedworth]

I am with you Arthur, I do not believe that was helpful or decent Dedworth, in fact it would dissuade some people from supporting some of your points I would suggest

I take the opposite view Scott these people are subhuman with no concern towards their fellow human beings (eg torching shops with people in flats above, robbing the injured Malaysian student under the guise of helping him) - therefore the only way to deal with them is to treat them in an inhumane manner.

We're all adult here and I'm quite comfortable with the pic but obviously if Arthur or any other mods feel it might cause outrage then they should remove it.

It won't happen but if a few looters were swinging from lamposts in Wolverhampton, Croydon etc it would stop any potential looters in their tracks.

[grahamw48]

Let's all at least have the good manners to be polite to members who are contributing in what is to them a foreign language.

[johncar54]

Graham I hope your last comment was not meant for me.


I had said to Zars: It was unusual as Zars comments usually display considerable erudition.

[scott&ligaya]

that was not my intention Graham48.

Dedworth
agreed if the mods find it offensive it will be removed. we can differ on how far we descend to the level of the looters themselves, the pendulaum needs to swing back but I would not want a totalitarian regime in its place.

[grahamw48]

that was not my intention Graham48.

Dedworth
agreed if the mods find it offensive it will be removed. we can differ on how far we descend to the level of the looters themselves, the pendulaum needs to swing back but I would not want a totalitarian regime in its place.

I didn't mean you.

[johncar54]

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[bornatbirth]

I do not believe that was helpful or decent Dedworth, in fact it would dissuade some people from supporting some of your points I would suggest

hopefully, just reading his posts is enough to do that

how many more times are you going to post that photo?, i would say the sub humans are the ones doing the beating and no better than the looters.

dedworth as had plenty chances in the last few days to put his ideas into practice, hows it going

[Dedworth]

hopefully, just reading his posts is enough to do that

how many more times are you going to post that photo?, i would say the sub humans are the ones doing the beating and no better than the looters.

I guess you are referring to the other retired looter picture here

dedworth as had plenty chances in the last few days to put his ideas into practice, hows it going

Like I said before if God forbid it ever got to my neighbourhood I'd be ready for them with my well polished Louisville Slugger baseball bat.

If per chance I was going to feature on News at 10 with it I'd obviously let you know but would expect similar notification if you appeared in any CCTV images involving handwringing or tea parties with feral scum

[bornatbirth]

have you ever thought of hot air ballooning as your next hobby

[stevewool]

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am i missing something here

[stevewool]

we all have a view and many many of us are just as concerned for our fellow man, peace to all , well i hope there will be, but put yourself in anyone that has been caught up in these riots ,jumping from fires, being robbed, all your belonging good, what would you do

[grahamw48]

we all have a view and many many of us are just as concerned for our fellow man, peace to all , well i hope there will be, but put yourself in anyone that has been caught up in these riots ,jumping from fires, being robbed, all your belonging good, what would you do

This:

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[sars_notd_virus]

It was unusual as Zars comments usually display considerable erudition.

Its been brewing for years and the authorities have been warned but chose to ignore it and even aspirate it by closing the youth centers and reducing funds to these type of youth programme, Mabey the goverment are giving the public a reason to cry out for a police state, Mind what you wish for ect...
If it wasn't for the fact that many people have mind numbing jobs just about earning enough to fulfill thier responsibilites to feed mouths and pay ever inflating prices for gas, electric, petrol. tax ect. I believe there would be more out on the streets, again possible what the government are pushing for.
Are the real criminals in the 24hr court like the bankers that let the money crisis happen, People lost thier homes and jobs and some committed suicide over it, No they are sat in their little mansions in Kensington, If there was trouble there I bet Johncar and his police buddies would react a lot quicker and more robustly


Just because you gave a few lectures doesn't mean you are right johncar!!... just means you were complicit.

com·plic·it (km-plst)
adj.
Associated with or participating in a questionable act or a crime; having complicity: newspapers complicit with the propaganda arm of a dictatorship. Or Goverment

[stevewool]

i am just a normal hard working loving man who loves my wife my children, family and friends , i am not into big words cannot expess myself like many can but everyword comes from my heart, so many on here are right and wrong, we all have views and if we dont like what we read then we can reply if you understand the question, youth centers are not the cause her, i think facebook , the twitter thing and mobils have not helped this matter, you may have hit the nail on the head Sars, about where you live

[Dedworth]

Its been brewing for years and the authorities have been warned but chose to ignore it and even aspirate it buy closing the youth centers and reducing funds to these type of youth programme, Mabey the goverment are giving the public a reason to cry out for a police state, Mind what you wish for ect...
If it wasn't for the fact that many people have mind numbing jobs just about earning enough to fulfill thier responsibilites to feed mouths and pay ever inflating prices for gas, electric, petrol. tax ect. I believe there would be more out on the streets, again possible what the government are pushing for.
Are the real criminals in the 24hr court like the bankers that let the money crisis happen, People lost thier homes and jobs and some committed suicide over it, No they are sat in their little mansions in Kensington, If there was trouble there I bet Johncar and his police buddies would react a lot quicker and more robustly


Just because you gave a few lectures doesn't mean you are right johncar!!... just means you were complicit.

com·plic·it (km-plst)
adj.
Associated with or participating in a questionable act or a crime; having complicity: newspapers complicit with the propaganda arm of a dictatorship. Or Goverment

There was no council housing, nhs, benefits or nanny state in the 1930's. Plenty of real poverty, unemployment and depression - they didn't riot and loot though and nor was there a problem with illict drugs.

[sars_notd_virus]

There was no council housing, nhs, benefits or nanny state in the 1930's. Plenty of real poverty, unemployment and depression - they didn't riot and loot though and nor was there a problem with illict drugs.

yeah , I hear it was like that in the ''dark ages'' as well??,..guess that explains everything then,..good point !!!

[Dedworth]

yeah , I hear it was like that in the ''dark ages'' as well??,..guess that explains everything then,..good point !!!

Yup and there would still be a few penioners alive in the 30's who survived World War 2 getting by on a paltry £100 per week state pension cowering in their homes the other night as the scum rampaged outside.

[sars_notd_virus]

Let's all at least have the good manners to be polite to members

you may have hit the nail on the head Sars, about where you live

thanks steve and graham

[stevewool]

we did not have much in the 60s either and 70s but love and peace and we had scuvy bloodyhell my poor mum, baths everynight and then calamine loition all over, those was the days

[Tawi2]

baths everynight

All that for a bit of scurvy,you soft southern wuss,we used to pick the skin flakes off the wool blankets and eat them for breakfast,Eeeeeeeh them were the days,nitty-norah the head explorer and rickets,happy days eh?

calamine loition

I remember getting covered in that but I cant remember what for?It was pink I think and I always wanted to drink it

[les_taxi]

The picture is hard on the eyes of the guy being dragged along but he wont be looting anymore
The video is brill well done to the guy who took him out