Tariq jahan for priminister
Tariq jahan for priminister
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...low-simplisticOriginally Posted by sars_notd_virus
Are the real criminals in the 24hr court like the bankers that let the money crisis happen, People lost thier homes and jobs and some committed suicide over it, No they are sat in their little mansions in Kensington, If there was trouble there I bet Johncar and his police buddies would react a lot quicker and more robustly
But he added: "Children's ideas of right and wrong don't just come from their parents. And we can't honestly say the greed, selfishness and gross irresponsibility that shocked us all so deeply is confined to the looters, or even to their parents.
"It's not the first time we've seen this kind of me first, take what you can culture. The bankers who took millions while destroying people's savings – greedy, selfish and immoral. The MPs who fiddled their expenses – greedy, selfish and immoral. The people who hacked phones to get stories to make money for themselves – greedy, selfish and immoral.
"People who talk about the sick behaviour of those without power should talk equally about the sick behaviour of those with power.
....Well he took his time saying it perhaps he reads this forum and reads my post ??
''Don't be serious..Be Sincere''
The stench of Millipedes hypocrisy makes me want to throw up
1) his former boss Bottler Brown spent the best part of 13 years schmoozing and brown hatting the bankers.
2) Labour were the worst expenses abusers
3) Not many weeks ago Millipede and most of the shadow cabinet gorged themselves at Murdochs summer bash
sky news have reported .. that david cameron will be arrested tomoro, and charged with misleading the public about his role in quelling the recent riots in england.
Sir hugh order fairly top policeman, who may be highershortly, declared: we want to establish an accurate account of these events..and the primeminister has attempted to boost his own contribution... Which in fact was Nil ...
downing street sources says nick clegg is currently in charge..and is due to resume his holiday after the weekend.
Mps thronged the house of commons trying to make sure their association with cameron was due to the pressure of busness..
Several tory MPs where trying to sort out there expenses for returning from holiday in o order to take part in the Debate on the riots..
Boris johnson, mayor of london, claims the the riots cud of been much worse if it wasnt for the congestion charge..
He also stated that he has instructed his own private company to create a multi million pound report to discover how many people actually arrived at the riots using personal vehicles..
Branno,
I keep getting this feeling that you're not a fan of DC
im saying nothing ...Branno,
I keep getting this feeling that you're not a fan of DCexcept that hes orf his rocker
still they cudnt wipe the slate clean about thatcher and ronnie raygun been responsible for mitt romey ehh ..:}
I posted something similar on facebook three days ago and yesterday it appeared in Ed's speech!!!
Now where did I put my tin foil hat???
I'm responding to this post by the way hahahaha
But he added: "Children's ideas of right and wrong don't just come from their parents. And we can't honestly say the greed, selfishness and gross irresponsibility that shocked us all so deeply is confined to the looters, or even to their parents.
"It's not the first time we've seen this kind of me first, take what you can culture. The bankers who took millions while destroying people's savings – greedy, selfish and immoral. The MPs who fiddled their expenses – greedy, selfish and immoral. The people who hacked phones to get stories to make money for themselves – greedy, selfish and immoral.
"People who talk about the sick behaviour of those without power should talk equally about the sick behaviour of those with power.
i totally agree..
Ho, hum ...... well ... hopefully the riots have been quelled - and all's quiet on the "Western front"!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...low-simplistic
But he added: "Children's ideas of right and wrong don't just come from their parents. And we can't honestly say the greed, selfishness and gross irresponsibility that shocked us all so deeply is confined to the looters, or even to their parents.
"It's not the first time we've seen this kind of me first, take what you can culture. The bankers who took millions while destroying people's savings – greedy, selfish and immoral. The MPs who fiddled their expenses – greedy, selfish and immoral. The people who hacked phones to get stories to make money for themselves – greedy, selfish and immoral.
"People who talk about the sick behaviour of those without power should talk equally about the sick behaviour of those with power.
....Well he took his time saying it perhaps he reads this forum and reads my post ??
Whilst of course one cannot draw a line between what did or did not influence those involved, I find it hard to accept that 'rather academic' argument.
In 1985 we did not have (or maybe did not know about) the bankers, MP etc, but the Broadwater Farm riot was no different in essence from the recent ones. A small supermarket was looted and set on fire.
The main difference was that it took place on a housing estate rather than amongst sports and electrical shops. However, as I explained earlier, that riot was planned to take place in Shopping City. Two police personnel carriers turning onto the estate, by mistake, caused a 'premature' kick off.
Wow was a bit surrel last week and was only a few miles from myself some of the looting. Along with others in my local area I ended up sitting outside a pub wondering what the hell might happen. Others in my local area were sitting in strategically placed Pubs at other parts of the area. One thing about shutting the telephone and data social networks down the normal folk working alongside the police and community both for the clear up and preparing for the worse used the same networks and social networking systems shutting them down would cause a mass panic and possibly make things a lot worse...
I like others was countering claims on twitter regarding my local area saying look nothing is happening. This i'm pretty sure helped to stop bystander type youths who give the type who might loot or fight cover and courage did not turn up. It also reassured those worried at home that there local streets were ok albeit very empty
Before someone says we were not needed and the police would not want "villgiantes" well for a start our poor very out of their depth community officers were in charge as most of the "regular police" until reinforcements came later were defending key places, the normal people were worried and certainly wanted no confrontational incidents to occur if at all possible. If they do have to cut funding in the police and lets face it funding every where has to be cut other wise there really will be issues in the longterm.. I think like as in the distant past irregular assistants for the local police constable may need to be created I presume under the guise of the special constables???
One thing which was good is the rest of the community actually got drawn together by the disgust and fear of what was going on.
Sadly it won't be the last time this will happen i believe and possibly worse. But saying that things often work themsleves out..
But i think a lot of factors have come in to play to cause the riots and there are a lot of angry people which while not the actual looters (the core were for sure were organised while anarchists were involved in some incidents from what people caught up in the grief i know personally have said) There are major issues that the parties need to stop point scoring on and like the worries of a double dip recession start cross party war cabinet type work to resolve. Will it happen naaa but hey ho I guess some how the normal person will get by
Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops
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