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    Hi

    Hi I'm Russell, Im Jen's bf who posted previously. I'm in Manchester Jen's in Manila. Have visited the forum before so I know its a great site for advice and lots of friendly helpful people around. It's great for Jen and I to be a part of this community; hopefully it can help us be together soon.

    Myself and Jen look forward to chatting with you all.

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    Russell


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    Nice intro Russell,hope you get your wish for togetherness



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    Good luck with it all


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    Hi Russell, Welcome to the forum to you both.

    Jen posted that she needs help, but to help we need all the info she can give. Maybe you can ask her to give all the details so we can give advice.

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    Hi Steve, yeah it's a complicated one and I don't know the full details myself as yet. Basically jen is married but separated. However her mum is over in Phils visiting from Australia (where she has lived for 23 years) and she tells me that Jens marriage is false and thast her husband has married again!!! So my obvious response was to question how he could marry again without going through an annullment process. Anyway, her mum reckons that she can get official documentation from the NSO (National Statistics Office) in Manila to say that she is not married....I have my doubts but her mum seems convinced she can do this. She said she did it to enable her to marry an Australian guy and go to Oz as his wife. Still with me!!!??? hahahaha

    I think i'm might be getting confused as its hard to hear conversations over webcam on yahoo sometimes.

    Anyway, it seems to be something to do with if the husband has married again then it nullifies the first marriage!? I don't really know if this is right but hey I live in hope. We had planned for getting Jen's marriage annulled anyway, so any advice on that option is always welcome...

    Sorry for such a long and convoluted, confusing first post guys & thanks in advance for any advice.



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    Thx Tawi2


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    Thx Dedworth



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    how he could marry again without going through an annullment process
    Easy,file presumptive death,its Pinas we are talking about,money talks,papers can be falsified etc.
    I have a friend who has just "adopted" a kid,gave a doctor a sum of cash and has had a birth-certificate signed indicating his wife is the natural birth-mother.



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    ok, but how would that look to UK immigration when they ask for proof of no existing marriage...In Jen's case I mean?



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    Welcome Russell and Jen Hope you get some good advice and resolve your problems


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    ok, but how would that look to UK immigration when they ask for proof of no existing marriage
    Presumptive death,her husbands dead so she is a widow,there was a forum member who did exactly that,I know someone else who did the same thing.



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    Hmmmm, maybe this is what her mum has in mind...not presumptive death, but maybe some other way of making it official that she is not married. I must say, her mum seems utterly convinced that she will be able to do this and as you say Tawi money talks in Phils. I live in hope


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    Hi Russell and Jen , welcome to you both, wishing luck your way, will be interesting to see how you get on


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    I just hope the UKBA aren't reading this thread.

    Careful not to name any names.


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    Hi Russell and Jen, welcome here to the forum.

    My advice is to wait to see if Jen's mother can achieve something with NSO.
    It is without doubt the 'cleanest' route under the circumstances.

    It's certainly not the case that the husbands 2nd marriage nullifies the first. The husband is actually a bigamist.

    I say at this stage wait and see what transpires with NSO.


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    I'd have thought it would be the other way around....first nullifying the second.


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    My ex's former boyfriend, and father of her 2 children conveniently got himself murdered before we brought the children here, so that simplified those visa applications.


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    yes but i think he may have done something or paid someone to make the marriage void, jens mum certainly thinks there will be no problem



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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    My ex's former boyfriend, and father of her 2 children conveniently got himself murdered before we brought the children here, so that simplified those visa applications.
    sssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


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    Russell_61

    I hope your mother in law isn't planning .....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmerg View Post
    Russell_61

    I hope your mother in law isn't planning .....


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    we were offered the same too...at first it so tempting coz it sounds easy and quick but ....but at the end of the day my fiancee didnt want to take the chance of me getting banned to enter u.k....after few months we heard from my cousin that her friend was totally banned bec.immigration found out that husband was not really dead but had a death certificate....it took 2 years for us to wait for my annulment (not bad eh?)....but its worth waiting for


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    your honeys mum may have had access to a friend in the NSO who can convienantly erase the records. This has been done before,just a case of knowing/paying the right officials
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    Hi Russell & jen welcome to the forum IMO it is to much of a risk to take as it could result in jen being banned from entering the uk i think it is much wiser to be up front & do everything above board then when the time arrives to submitt jens visa app you will have peace of mind without the stress & worries. Good luck with whatever route you both choose to take.


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    hello


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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell_61 View Post
    Hi I'm Russell, Im Jen's bf who posted previously. I'm in Manchester Jen's in Manila. Have visited the forum before so I know its a great site for advice and lots of friendly helpful people around. It's great for Jen and I to be a part of this community; hopefully it can help us be together soon.

    Myself and Jen look forward to chatting with you all.

    Many Thanks

    Russell
    Hi Russell we're on the same boat...and the only way around it really is to get an annulment which can take years and lots of money spent...I haven't had any contact with my ex for 21yrs and seeking help from his family is impossible.

    We've made several researches, seek legal advice and it all boils down to one thing...annulment!

    My partner and I spoke with an agency in London and was informed that they've dealt with cases like ours, had always been successful and they can definitely help...how? I don't know as they won't disclose in details unless you sign up for their services...they called me the other night took some information, says they are very confident that it can be done otherwise they wouldn't take the case...here's the link to their website, check it out and let me know what you think and how your feel about it, they're very pricey but hey if it can be done legally and successfully why not right? good luck to us and stay in touch maybe we can be of help to each other

    http://www.ukvisaandimmigration.co.uk/complaints.php


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    I'd have thought it would be the other way around....first nullifying the second.


    i'd wait til her mom has heard from the NSO to see if she is married, because she will need to answer questions on the visa application form Have you or your sponsor ever been married or in
    a long-term marriage like relationship before
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell_61 View Post
    Hi I'm Russell, Im Jen's bf who posted previously. I'm in Manchester Jen's in Manila. Have visited the forum before so I know its a great site for advice and lots of friendly helpful people around. It's great for Jen and I to be a part of this community; hopefully it can help us be together soon.

    Myself and Jen look forward to chatting with you all.

    Many Thanks

    Russell
    Hi, Russell ... I've already welcomed Jen to our friendly forum ... and now have much pleasure in extending the same courtesy to you, Worthwhile waiting to see what Jen's mum can "rustle" up from NSO records.


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    welcome!
    Quote Originally Posted by Russell_61 View Post
    Hi I'm Russell, Im Jen's bf who posted previously. I'm in Manchester Jen's in Manila. Have visited the forum before so I know its a great site for advice and lots of friendly helpful people around. It's great for Jen and I to be a part of this community; hopefully it can help us be together soon.

    Myself and Jen look forward to chatting with you all.

    Many Thanks

    Russell


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    Welcome to the forum Russell and Jen Just been to Manchester last month such a shame didn't see you. Hopefully will going to see you and Jen soon.
    "Some people come into our lives, leave footprints on our hearts, and we are never the same."


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