as andypaul said, i wasn't having a dig about you and visa's. i will about you being a chelsea fan , no its good you dont have to pay , i'm not moaning about that, iam moaning i shouldn't have to pay to, its your legal right to be with your family.its aimed at non euro's who have a relationship with a british citizen or eea national in the uk, so they can stay in the uk, those who are just using their partner, if you think this is not wide spread, from the number of posts i've read it is and some of them have made me so much, more than scouser keiths jokes ever would.

'my b/f of 3 years, hes an illegal immigrant hes been here 5 years, we intend to get married, but hes worried about applying for a visa ......... '

'my daughter has turned 21, iam on a work permit, shes working, how can she stay in the uk.. apply for work permit or have a relationship... '

reading some of them its better than tv, those who break the rules, are using the system, while the honest ones, like me and you, pay the price.. as ive said before, since end of nov last year ive paid £2250 for visa's i feel i shouldnt have to pay for, none of us should, who have a right to be here

aromulus i dont know where in my post, you think iam having a dig at you, if you mean about having a 'relationship' with a eea national in the uk not having to pay for a visa, ive seen that advice given a few times given on forums so you dont have to pay for a visa, while if you have a 'relationship' with a brit you will have to pay for a spouse visa..., the advice was given about saving money !!, not about eea national or brit marrying someone, just money saving..