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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    I understand there point but will the minimum income depend on where you live?. We all know London is expensive.
    not only that how can they ignore any skills or job prospects of your Filipina partner , my wife earns more than double me

    and what if when it comes to apply for FLR or ILR and you've been made redundant are they going to deport your spouse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... that SHOULDN'T be necessary! As for the 'Criminal Activity' that the Home Secretary mentions ... surely the BIGGEST crime is the disparity that allows the British Government to extort thousands of pounds out of its own taxpayers - whilst simultaneously turning a blind eye to the continuing influx of partners of continental Europeans coming here free gratis.

    Joe ... you of all people know that!
    was reading about id cards last night... did you kno that a polish person can come directly into uk on an ID card.. but we must have a passport..to enter poland.. an id card costs around 5 pounds for those members in the eu who are part of the schengen treaty..


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    what if your retired or disabled , are they going to refuse your partner a visa, i can see lots of court cases

    what will they do, if you have a child ? they have to take account of the best interest of the child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    what if your retired or disabled , are they going to refuse your partner a visa, i can see lots of court cases

    what will they do, if you have a child ? they have to take account of the best interest of the child.
    child, they proberbly tell you to go to them


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... that SHOULDN'T be necessary! As for the 'Criminal Activity' that the Home Secretary mentions ... surely the BIGGEST crime is the disparity that allows the British Government to extort thousands of pounds out of its own taxpayers - whilst simultaneously turning a blind eye to the continuing influx of partners of continental Europeans coming here free gratis.

    Joe ... you of all people know that!
    i was born blind under the illusion that only foreign goverments were corrupt


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    Having thought about it guys we all have a groan but like anything else the government will do what they want. I dont think we can do anything about it.


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    protest, that's what some immigrants groups have done , they've taken the gov to court and won, the gov has a poor record of winning cases, it seems the only ones they do win are when its a brit is challenging them

    get protesting now

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    'Under the proposals the unemployed or those living on less than around £5,000 a year would be banned from doing so, while the probation period before spouses and partners can apply for settlement in Britain would be raised from two to five years.'
    Does this mean those spouses already here on a settlement VISA of 2 years may have the wait extended to 5 years if this is intoduced in April 2012? My wifes ILR application will be made in May 2012?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    protest, that's what some immigrants groups have done , they've taken the gov to court and won, the gov has a poor record of winning cases, it seems the only ones they do win are when its a brit is challenging them

    get protesting now

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    Im sorry lordna I dont know how to answer that one. But a phone call to the uk border agency will not do any harm.


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    This is again the ridiculous knee jerk reactions of the government. They are not dealing with the root problem if immigration.
    It's like having a car with a flat tyre and saying the best way to resolve it is to drive slower, and not thinking, well maybe lets fix the tyre.

    The problem is not immigration. The problem is why people are coming to the UK, why do illegal immigrants travel across the whole of Europe to our little island instead of stopping in the South of France or the Costa del Sol? Why are people so keen to move from other parts of Europe to the UK, why not other countries?
    The problem is one; that our welfare state system is broken and too generous, fix that system and people will goto other countries which are more generous. Two, harden up on the allowances for immigrants to work in the country (legal or illegal immigrants), and even foreign spouses should have a minimum period (maybe a year or two years) before they can work, unless they are qualified in a skill shortage area.
    Make it so people have no reason to come to the UK, take away the abuse reasons, and only genuine people will come.
    However, this is all too late, and the UK is a slippery slope. As we all emigrate to Australia/Canada/France etc, let the last Brit turn the lights out as he leaves.


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    This Law if its implement is crazy. How on earth am I supposed to bring over my kids and wife. Everythings already expensive as it is. If they bring this law in place Id rather just stay in the Phils forever and bye bye uk. Ive worked so hard all my life and now the systems letting me down big time. Im about to leave the Philippines in the next few months or so and now beginning to get cold feet.

    Ive got full time permanent worked lined up in my previous company working 7 days a week ill be earning about 1500 pounds a month. This new policy looks like its not enough to support my wife and 4 kids. who are all under 16.


    We are keen to learn from practice in other European countries. An example is the attachment requirement in Denmark, which requires a couple’s combined attachment to Denmark to be greater than that to any other country. It is argued that this promotes effective integration and provides a further test of the genuineness of a relationship.

    To meet the attachment requirement, the sponsor of a marriage visa must have resided legally in Denmark for at least 15 years and the applicant must have visited the country at least twice.


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    Whilst I sympathise Aiden, and I believe the system will simply strengthen the requirement for you to prove you can support your family, I do feel that if you can't support your family, why should you expect the country to let you in and you require support from the government. This in the same way as why should we be supporting people who come from abroad and are given houses, cars and money.
    If they do implement the system, it needs to be fair, but it will probably be unfair.


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    Ricky.

    There are some people who earn minimum salary rate which now stands at about £6.03. IF these people are earning the national minimum wage there are people out there that dont want to claim benefits you know.

    Rather then making the immigrations CRAZY, yes crazy and unfair for genuine people like myself they should target the real areas.

    Honestly the UK is loosing it big time. I really now want to just stay in the Philippines and seriously considering never to return if these stupid laws affect me.

    IF they affect me see you UK.

    Im 30 years old have my own online business plus i work too. Never claimed anything and dont owe no one anything.

    These laws to me look crazy!


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyR View Post
    Whilst I sympathise Aiden, and I believe the system will simply strengthen the requirement for you to prove you can support your family, I do feel that if you can't support your family, why should you expect the country to let you in and you require support from the government. This in the same way as why should we be supporting people who come from abroad and are given houses, cars and money.
    If they do implement the system, it needs to be fair, but it will probably be unfair.
    support their family, if they have their own kids, them kids, will at least probably be British citizens by descent, and be entitled to the same benefits as any other kids born in the UK, nothing the gov can do there.

    as for his wife, how many spouses have a job lined up b4 they come to the uk ?, how can they not take this into account, both spouses working will reduce any risks of the partner needing recourse to public funds.

    i for one would rather be paying taxes and that tax going in 'public funds' and supporting a British citizens spouse than going to a European and their non British European spouse or non European spouse
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    support their family, if they have their own kids, them kids, will at least probably be British citizens by descent, and be entitled to the same benefits as any other kids born in the UK, nothing the gov can do there.

    as for his wife, how many spouses have a job lined up b4 they come to the uk ?, how can they not take this into account, both spouses working will reduce any risks of the partner needing recourse to public funds.

    i for one would rather be paying taxes and that tax going in 'public funds' and supporting a British citizens spouse than going to a European and their non British European spouse or non European spouse

    Well said their matey. Ive been living abroad for the last 4 years. I visited the UK in June this year for a month to see my parents. Oh god alots changed in the past 4 years. The system is starting to fail me big time. All I can say is that the UK needs to change but needs to consider its citizens first. Why is the govt letting all these Europeans in. My older brothers a builder (22 years) now its hard for him to find a job because all his competitions are polish and iraqis. This is total Bulls**t.


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    Sorry guys, was being a bit a devils advocate to promote some thoughts. I genuinely think it would be difficult under Human Rights to say that if you can afford to live in the UK, then how can they deny the visa.
    My personal opinion is the UK's had its day, and it's the next generation that will suffer.
    I doub't we'll ever come back to the UK, and are planning a holiday next year in Aussie to see whether that would ever be an option in the future.


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    Do these new rules mean my wife can apply for Naturalisation as a British citizen (after 3 years here) but cant get her ILR till after 5 years?

    Cant see anything inthe consultation or naturalisation rules that says you need ILR first? hehehe


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    Quote Originally Posted by lordna View Post
    Do these new rules mean my wife can apply for Naturalisation as a British citizen (after 3 years here) but cant get her ILR till after 5 years?

    Cant see anything inthe consultation or naturalisation rules that says you need ILR first? hehehe
    lordna,
    There are no new immigrations rules.
    Whatever you see on the UKBA website now still applies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyR View Post
    Sorry guys, was being a bit a devils advocate to promote some thoughts. I genuinely think it would be difficult under Human Rights to say that if you can afford to live in the UK, then how can they deny the visa.
    My personal opinion is the UK's had its day, and it's the next generation that will suffer.
    I doub't we'll ever come back to the UK, and are planning a holiday next year in Aussie to see whether that would ever be an option in the future.
    no problems Ricky, there are problems with abuse, i've seen enough of it myself, but you can't keep punishing the Brit and do nothing to the Europeans who come here.

    as for the UK, we will be staying here, the cost for us is cheaper than anywhere else and we've got everything here.

    Quote Originally Posted by lordna View Post
    Do these new rules mean my wife can apply for Naturalisation as a British citizen (after 3 years here) but cant get her ILR till after 5 years?

    Cant see anything inthe consultation or naturalisation rules that says you need ILR first? hehehe
    they are proposed changes, and looking at the past changes i would have thought there would be a period of transition. so it probably will not effect your wife.
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    Immigration Minister Damian Green confirmed the importance of ‘tackling abuse of the family migration route’, and promoting better community integration for those who come to live permanently in the UK, the UK Border Agency reports. The Immigration Minister has outlined the proposals on a YouTube question and answer video.
    You can email him on asktheminister@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    Immigration Minister Damian Green confirmed the importance of ‘tackling abuse of the family migration route’, and promoting better community integration for those who come to live permanently in the UK, the UK Border Agency reports. The Immigration Minister has outlined the proposals on a YouTube question and answer video.
    You can email him on asktheminister@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
    Well i have emailed him about the transition period ....but he hasnt replied yet!


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    Quote Originally Posted by lordna View Post
    Well i have emailed him about the transition period ....but he hasnt replied yet!
    Typical! ... WHEN did you email him?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Typical! ... WHEN did you email him?
    September 17th.....and still no reply!


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    Quote Originally Posted by lordna View Post
    September 17th.....and still no reply!
    That's 10 days ago, now ... has he replied yet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    That's 10 days ago, now ... has he replied yet?
    10 days , i emailed my MP, why as a British Citizen , born in the UK I had to pay £4,000+ in visa's fees to bring my family to the UK, yet Europeans didn't have to pay, that was more than 2yrs ago, i've still not got a reply
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    10 days , i emailed my MP, why as a British Citizen , born in the UK I had to pay £4,000+ in visa's fees to bring my family to the UK, yet Europeans didn't have to pay, that was more than 2yrs ago, i've still not got a reply
    You wouldn't have liked the reply anyway....


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    Quote Originally Posted by lordna View Post
    Well i have emailed him about the transition period ....but he hasnt replied yet!
    Escalate it a level or two

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