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[Terpe]

..... most Filipino's I know spend most of the day laying on their backs, smoking and drinking Tanduay....

Well most Filipino's I know are quite the opposite.

So what does that tell us then?

[gWaPito]

Well most Filipino's I know are quite the opposite.

So what does that tell us then?

It tells us there are good and bad everywhere...in this case lazy and industrious.

Many think the British young are also lazy good for nothings but, I can say not the young I know personally.

[gWaPito]

He did say most of the ones he knew..not a broad brush statement.

[Takenoprisoners]

Hi Graham48... No not a generalisation or a sweeping statement.. It is merely an indigenous thing about the Philippines.... It's been that way for decades.. and each and every government has screwed the people so did the yanks... (they screw everyone) so its hardly surprising the way things are.... Religion too must take a huge dose of responsibility giving people false hope and false beliefs.... the place is full of superstitions and stories... all are as realistic as santa claus...... I don't know if the philippines will ever be corruption free... whether it will ever be a country to invest in.. doubt if it will be in my lifetime anyway..... Having said all this, I still think some of the most beautiful and loving and caring women are from there... and there is a lot of good in the country too.... just needs a new direction........... I used to own a couple of bars and internet cafes there.....

[Terpe]

Hi Graham48... No not a generalisation or a sweeping statement.. It is merely an indigenous thing about the Philippines.... It's been that way for decades.. and each and every government has screwed the people so did the yanks... (they screw everyone) so its hardly surprising the way things are.... Religion too must take a huge dose of responsibility giving people false hope and false beliefs.... the place is full of superstitions and stories... all are as realistic as santa claus...... I don't know if the philippines will ever be corruption free... whether it will ever be a country to invest in.. doubt if it will be in my lifetime anyway..... Having said all this, I still think some of the most beautiful and loving and caring women are from there... and there is a lot of good in the country too.... just needs a new direction........... I used to own a couple of bars and internet cafes there.....

Personally, I can understand some of what you say.
From my own experience over many years (too many to recount) I would not use 'indigenous' in the same sentence as meaning lazy. The vast majority of ordinary folk are very industrious (especially the ladies).

There's a lot of truth in many of the other things you mention.
I suggest that bars, and perhaps even internet cafe's may well attract customers who do not seek a normal working life.

No offence, this is my own personal experience. Your experience is obviously significantly different.
It should be that I can learn form you and that you can learn from me.

[gWaPito]

Personally, I can understand some of what you say.
From my own experience over many years (too many to recount) I would not use 'indigenous' in the same sentence as meaning lazy. The vast majority of ordinary folk are very industrious (especially the ladies).

There's a lot of truth in many of the other things you mention.
I suggest that bars, and perhaps even internet cafe's may well attract customers who do not seek a normal working life.

No offence, this is my own personal experience. Your experience is obviously significantly different.
It should be that I can learn form you and that you can learn from me.

So you are saying women who frequent bars and pc shops don't reach your standards....interesting.

A lot of the members here met there wives through the internet..me included.

Had it been the olden days we'd would of probably met in what was deemed normal of the day. Probably the way most long time married British/Filipina did. Perhaps have a holiday, meet the lady of your dreams then endless letter writing etc etc.

Times have changed...life moves much quickly now.

Lets not rubbish the for some, unknown.

[Terpe]

So you are saying women who frequent bars and pc shops don't reach your standards....interesting.

Alot of the members here met there wives through the internet..me included.

Had it been the olden days we'd would of probably met in what was deemed normal of the day. Probably the way most long time married British/Filipina did. Perhaps have a holiday, meet the lady of your dreams then endless letter writing etc etc.

Times have changed...life moves much quickly now.

Lets not rubbish the for some, unknown.

It's very confusing to everyone when posters say they know what someone else is saying when they clearly do not, and don't even bother to check!!

[grahamw48]

Hi Graham48... No not a generalisation or a sweeping statement.. It is merely an indigenous thing about the Philippines.... It's been that way for decades.. and each and every government has screwed the people so did the yanks... (they screw everyone) so its hardly surprising the way things are.... Religion too must take a huge dose of responsibility giving people false hope and false beliefs.... the place is full of superstitions and stories... all are as realistic as santa claus...... I don't know if the philippines will ever be corruption free... whether it will ever be a country to invest in.. doubt if it will be in my lifetime anyway..... Having said all this, I still think some of the most beautiful and loving and caring women are from there... and there is a lot of good in the country too.... just needs a new direction........... I used to own a couple of bars and internet cafes there.....

My friend I have been visiting and living in the Phils for decades, so I DO know where you're coming from.

I also know many bar owners both from my Ermita days and those years when I was resident in Angeles City and running a couple of NON-bar businesses.

I think your view may be a bit clouded by your involvement in bars and internet cafes, but do correct me if I'm wrong.

This board is a very different environment, populated by a very different kind of person to the sort you and I may have become accustomed to meeting.
I don't know how much time you spent living in the provinces or travelling around the country, but things are very different there.

Before posting, please stop to consider the feelings of the respectable Filipina members here (and their male family members) before insulting their country and generalising about the work ethics of the Filipino people.

[malditako]

Hi Graham48... No not a generalisation or a sweeping statement.. It is merely an indigenous thing about the Philippines.... It's been that way for decades.. and each and every government has screwed the people so did the yanks... (they screw everyone) so its hardly surprising the way things are.... Religion too must take a huge dose of responsibility giving people false hope and false beliefs.... the place is full of superstitions and stories... all are as realistic as santa claus...... I don't know if the philippines will ever be corruption free... whether it will ever be a country to invest in.. doubt if it will be in my lifetime anyway..... Having said all this, I still think some of the most beautiful and loving and caring women are from there... and there is a lot of good in the country too.... just needs a new direction........... I used to own a couple of bars and internet cafes there.....

indegenous in what sense...(drinking tanduay in back garden) same as most of british..the only difference is that they drink in the pub and money spent came from their benefits. whats wrong of having religion...better to have false hope than never hope at all...no offense to others met a lot of people here in uk who dont believe in GOD but got huge celebration plans for christmas wonder if they know why there is xmas...corruption is present in phils same as in every government and thats not exclude UK. Most of the people from the place i came from works everday (both professional and blue collar jobs) children go to school etc,...i think u have to dig more about phils rather than just a nice place to meet young beautiful and caring woman to marry.

[gWaPito]

indegenous in what sense...( drinking tanduay in back garden ) same as most of british..the only difference is that they drink in the pub and money spent came from their benefits. whats wrong of having religion...better to have false hope than never hope at all...no offense to others met a lot of people here in uk who dont believe in GOD but got huge celebration plans for christmas wonder if they know why there is xmas...corruption is present in phils same as in every government and thats not exclude UK. Most of the people from the place i came from works everday (both professional and blue collar jobs) children go to school etc,...i think u have to dig more about phils rather than just a nice place to meet young beautiful and caring woman to marry.

Brilliant!.....I agree wholeheartedly with all of that.

Surprising like you say about folks here in the UK claiming they have no religion yet celebrate Christmas and Easter..

All the power to you.

Although im sure 'takenoprisoners' ( ref post 12) did say it was the Filipinos he knew of that were taking to rum and laziness.

Btw The benefits being spent in the pub is money that should be spent on their families....give them food vouchers instead, just like the old days...the pubs won't be happy but, mama and the kids will be

Cheers