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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyR View Post
    Professor David Metcalf, chairman of the Migration Advisory Committee, said a minimum salary of between £18,600 and £25,700 should be introduced for UK residents sponsoring a partner or dependant for UK citizenship.

    This minimum, which applies equally to British citizens and immigrants, is currently set at around £13,700.
    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Good for you Arthur. This has got me so mad. If they want to wind anyone up they sure know how to do it. A figure is stated in the post minimum income is £13700. Why did the uk border person say there was no income limit when I asked? Or am i reading it wrong?
    , Andy ... that's MY train of thought too!! Tbh, I'd no there was any set minimum ... yet! As far as I'm aware, these unrealistic proposals are presently at the drawing-board stage ... and what the UKBA person led you to believe, still applies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    , Andy ... that's MY train of thought too!! Tbh, I'd no there was any set minimum ... yet! As far as I'm aware, these unrealistic proposals are presently at the drawing-board stage ... and what the UKBA person led you to believe, still applies.
    We are talking about Cameron and his cronies here Arthur. It will definatley go ahead,


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    Its just all confusing and worrying at the same time lastlid. Thanks.


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    I believe what they are ACTUALLY looking for is DISPOSABLE income.

    Some people may have zero mortgage while some may be paying over a thousand a month etc.

    That is certainly how the credit companies go about it.


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    I believe these plans to be wrong and will only impact on the genuine couples such as myself. I do agree that the family route is being abused but don't ruin genuine couples a right to be a couple. Despite the abuse there is genuine couple out there.


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    A price hike won't make any difference for the demand for visas.

    You only got to look at the prices of visas of yesteryear and still the demand increases.

    Like coffin nails and booze, people will find the money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyR View Post

    Matt Cavanagh, the think-tank's associate director, said: 'It isn't unreasonable - particularly in the current economic climate - to ask whether, if someone is destitute or entirely dependent on benefits, they should be allowed to bring in a spouse or partner who is likely to end up in a similar position


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1dw8m60Mi
    Excellent post, excellent idea Matty....this is commonsense talking now.

    Doomed it maybe but, its idea I'd vote for


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    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/comment/tal...115946600.html

    An interesting article related to this thread........
    Last edited by lastlid; 17th November 2011 at 20:38. Reason: Correction


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    Extract :

    "The Migration Advisory Committee did the sums and announced this morning that the salary would need to be somewhere between £18,700 and £25,700. It will almost certainly be accepted and implemented. That means half the working population of Britain are about to lose the right to fall in love with someone overseas and bring them home to live together. Only the rich can fall in love on holiday. Only the rich are allowed to live with the person they love. The poor must be apart, or leave their own country."


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Extract :

    "The Migration Advisory Committee did the sums and announced this morning that the salary would need to be somewhere between £18,700 and £25,700. It will almost certainly be accepted and implemented. That means half the working population of Britain are about to lose the right to fall in love with someone overseas and bring them home to live together. Only the rich can fall in love on holiday. Only the rich are allowed to live with the person they love. The poor must be apart, or leave their own country."
    I would hardly call someone earning (not bringing home) between 18.5 k and 25.5 k rich.

    Even the goverment don't, to the extent of subsiding that income In working tax credit up to the tune of 11.5 k per year if you got 3 kids. Happy days ahh...for some.

    I don't know what the complaining is all about, if you don't earn enough to look after yourself without any sort of benefits, how on earth are you going to look after your wife and kids, not without recourse to public funds.

    The fact is, those non English speaking Europeans are now our new brothers and sisters....diddly squat we can do about it. That is unfair.


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    Also...bridegrooms.

    Many are currently coming in for arranged marriages from the primitive Asian subcontinent, and that's what has probably caused the problems for the rest of us.

    Of course they will also be the people most likely to fiddle their way round the regulations.

    STUPID GOVERNMENT !


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Also...bridegrooms.

    Many are currently coming in for arranged marriages from the primitive Asian subcontinent, and that's what has probably caused the problems for the rest of us.

    Of course they will also be the people most likely to fiddle their way round the regulations.

    STUPID GOVERNMENT !
    dont they always with everything


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    Exactly Joe but you key words are no minimum income AT THE MO. Anyway all will be revealed come April.


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    Oh, does that mean I can now travel throughout Europe without a passport ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Oh, does that mean I can now travel throughout Europe without a passport ?
    The UKBA are unable to protect our borders from the unlawful so im guessing they are taking the easier route by shafting the law abiding....in this case its justifiable...as for passports, naah just wrap yourself around a Polish truck's axle...when in Rome do as the Romans do


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    Surley a someone who has lived and worked in this country all his life has a right to marry who he wants and bring them here.?

    Andy you are right
    I am John.... I have worked hard all my life here in the UK. I thought I had a good living..I have savings can go on holiday even travel round the world to get married.
    I have no intentions of bringing my wife Maricris to the UK and try to live off Benifits. I have never claimed for Benifits and hopefuly I never will. But the target the Goverment is asking is way out of my reach. I live here in the north.... some on this forum say it is not a lot of money..But I asure you not many employers are willing to pay £400+ a week not in the days of national minimum wage. Who knows what will happen if this is implemented there is no way I would reach the Goverments financial target. So dose Maricris stay were she is..this is all going pear shaped


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    Quote Originally Posted by John_10 View Post
    Surley a someone who has lived and worked in this country all his life has a right to marry who he wants and bring them here.?

    Andy you are right
    I am John.... I have worked hard all my life here in the UK. I thought I had a good living..I have savings can go on holiday even travel round the world to get married.
    I have no intentions of bringing my wife Maricris to the UK and try to live off Benifits. I have never claimed for Benifits and hopefuly I never will. But the target the Goverment is asking is way out of my reach. I live here in the north.... some on this forum say it is not a lot of money..But I asure you not many employers are willing to pay £400+ a week not in the days of national minimum wage. Who knows what will happen if this is implemented there is no way I would reach the Goverments financial target. So dose Maricris stay were she is..this is all going pear shaped
    John don't be so downhearted & don't be a victim, from your post you shouldn't have a problem.
    You've got to stay positive, hard though that seems sometimes, we've all been there.

    andy222, you need to stop being so negative too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim11UK View Post
    John don't be so downhearted & don't be a victim, from your post you shouldn't have a problem.
    You've got to stay positive, hard though that seems sometimes, we've all been there.

    andy222, you need to stop being so negative too.
    I agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John_10 View Post
    Surley someone who has lived and worked in this country all his life has a right to marry who he wants and bring them here.?

    I am John.... I have worked hard all my life here in the UK. I thought I had a good living..I have savings can go on holiday even travel round the world to get married.

    But the target the Goverment is asking is way out of my reach. I live here in the north. ... some on this forum say it is not a lot of money..But I asure you not many employers are willing to pay £400+ a week not in the days of national minimum wage.
    with John. Even taking into account the combined total of MY Occupational and State Pensions, there's NO WAY I could match any more than half the unrealistic Government figures quoted. Those who claim it isn't a lot of money are either fortunate enough to be [that] well-off ... or they're living in cloud land. End of story!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    with John. Even taking into account the combined total of MY Occupational and State Pensions, there's NO WAY I could match any more than half the unrealistic Government figures quoted. Those who claim it isn't a lot of money are either fortunate enough to be [that] well-off ... or they're living in cloud land. End of story!
    25k is the average uk wage......no cuckoo land or well off.......it's just average.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    25k is the average uk wage......not cuckoo land or well off....... it's just average.
    It may BE for the hours YOU purport to work (by your OWN admission) ... but the average wage for a senior clerk [which I was] putting in a NORMAL 36-hour working week is NOWHERE near £25k p.a.! Mark my words.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    It may BE for the hours YOU purport to work (by your OWN admission) ... but the average wage for a senior clerk [which I was] putting in a NORMAL 36-hour working week is NOWHERE near £25k p.a.! Mark my words.
    Goodness me I didn't state it was average....the national statistics did!

    It just goes to show there's a north south divide


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    25k is the average uk wage......no cuckoo land or well off.......it's just average.
    who says the average wage is 25k
    old saying about statistics. put your head in an oven and your feet in a fridge, and statistics will tell you your doing fine

    not many service jobs pay £25k, have a look in your local paper are paying that or more.. many pay minimum wage
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/a...ages-2010.html

    A few more stats on UK salaries....


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    Quote Originally Posted by John_10 View Post

    I assure you not many employers are willing to pay £400+ a week not in the days of national minimum wage.
    Referring once more to this extract from John's post ... ... ... again!


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    Thanks for that John and very well said..


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    For my new love....I'm prepared to sell my body.


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    You know. I am always reading the posts on here and I have never found a more friendlier site. Even those who are settled here with their wives have given their support and input. Thanks for your support guys.


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    True....when they're not arguing in the middle of the bloody night !


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    True....when they're not arguing in the middle of the bloody night !
    Arthur was short of forumers last night, it was either be quiet or argue with Mark for 5mins

    We are friends really


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