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    UK court upholds English-speaking rule for immigrants

    the gov has actually won a court case after being forced to lower the minimum age from 21 to 18, i thought the gov might lose this one to

    A High Court judge on Friday dismissed a legal challenge to a new immigration rule that requires people to be able to speak English before moving to Britain to live with their partner or spouse.

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/11135193.cms
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Fair play to the judge. But the people involved have been given the right to appeal..


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    To be perectly honest my initial reaction is total disbelief.
    I just wonder if any of the highly paid lawyers will continue to pursue this issue.

    In my opinion the reality of the English Test and it's changes and consequencies is a complete 'buggers-muddle' and is not clear at all.

    Maybe I'm begining to be a real grumpy old man.


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    They are going to appeal Terpe. They are taking it to the high court. It makes my blood boil. It was on our local radio today. Apparently one of them. The wife has been here for 6 years and now wants her husband to join her from pakistan. He is 58 years old and cant speak english. She claims it is too far for him to travel to go to learn english where he lives and it would better for him to come here and learn the language. Further more she has already got a job lined up for him here in a packaging firm. 3 million out of work here and she has lined a job up for him. Makes me laugh.


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    Saw this on the news. Like Terpe still don't know why the Philippines is on the list, when most inhabitants can speak an acceptable level of English.

    Then all the hassle alanp went through, after fulfilling all of the requirements.


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    Me neither. I will play it by the book and I am expecting some hassle.


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    Good news but I'd rather see the Govt putting more effort into shipping out illegal trash and failed so called "asylum seekers"
    Last edited by Dedworth; 16th December 2011 at 22:35. Reason: Poor spelling


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    I agree to that too.


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    huh what does it mean ???? does it says that we dont need to do the A1 ENGLISH exam of TOEIC any more to be able to apply for spouse visa going to UK???????? was it already implemented?????


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    Quote Originally Posted by lykayu01 View Post
    huh what does it mean ???? does it says that we dont need to do the A1 ENGLISH exam of TOEIC any more to be able to apply for spouse visa going to UK???????? was it already implemented?????
    It means no change.

    Just continue with you English Test and good luck


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    It means no change.

    Just continue with you English Test and good luck
    ahhh ok thanks Terpe ;') though im just waiting for my second part's exam ..i mean the result to be delivered by 1st week of January ;')


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    Quote Originally Posted by lykayu01 View Post
    huh what does it mean ???? does it says that we dont need to do the A1 ENGLISH exam of TOEIC any more to be able to apply for spouse visa going to UK???????? was it already implemented?????
    Hi it depends when you are thinking about applying for your visa. If it is after April the government might change the rules. For example making the score you need to pass higher. Just a thought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Hi it depends when you are thinking about applying for your visa. If it is after April the government might change the rules. For example making the score you need to pass higher. Just a thought.
    one thing is certain it never gets cheaper or easier
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    Honestly, the government is focusing on the wrong parts. Much of the immigration whether legal or illegal is economic migration from actually very poor families in various parts of Asia, and they are coming for a better life. I understand that, but England is a reaching a point where it cannot sustain these levels of immigration. Having an English test isn't the right action.
    They need to reduce the welfare state, before the pot runs dry completely. People might cry, but they'll cry even more if we end up like a 3rd world country!!!! The immigrants will have no loyalty for the country, in the same way as very few british migrants abroad have loyalty for the countries they live in unless they CHOOSE to fully adapt.


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    The main source of all the immigration is coming from India and Pakistan but the government cant be seen to be just targeting them. So everybody has got to play by the rules. Thats my understanding of it. The english language test is a good thing I only know too well in my job. I have had to book a interpreter to come with me for 3 visits next week because the patient cant speak english. Now the patient concerned is asking for a letter from the NHS to confirm her illness so that she can use it for evidence to get her sister over her from india to look after her..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post

    In my opinion the reality of the English Test and it's changes and consequencies is a complete 'buggers-muddle' and is not clear at all.

    Maybe I'm begining to be a real grumpy old man.
    Nope. You are right. It is a complete mess. It could be radically improved with a bit of thought and care.


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