its the figures, obviously, to keep one person if benefit figures are deemed enough for a person to live on,Originally Posted by London_Manila
then the figure should be of a similar amount, x 2 to allow for the spouse not a whopping 26k,
after all its about the minimum government stated amount needed to live on ,
just where does 26k come into this
I am sorry that you dont make 30k a year but i stand by that figurei think your a idiot your saying £30.000 is good that means i got to earn £2500 amonth i would be lucky if i got £1500 a month ans as i drive a truck am only aloud to drive 9 hours a day you tell me how i get the time to earn the rest i suppose i should be looking to date and marry someone from uk thats already on benifets would that make you happy well am not going to be told by you or thisgoverment who i marry you keep your happy life and all the money you have as am happy with what i got its not alot but me and my wife to be are happy and so are alot on this forum
you can marry anyone and from anywhere all the government is doing is asking people to prove they can support that person before they come to the uk
im gone think id rather talk to my ownthan someone elses
obviously this guy is out of touch with reality
Back to your assumptions againDon't give the troll the satisfaction guys.
Let him scuttle off back to Angeles or wherever he busies himself taking advantage of poverty-stricken young girls, with no responsibility or conscience required.
Yes you make some good points
I dont think i could make ends meet if i made less than 26k living here in london and that is me being single
i see you have great debating skills
oh yes and the present lot have made a vast improvement, maybe i missed that partA lot of it would have to have happened anyway because of the mess the last one left us in.
Borrow borrow borrow, like there's no tomorrow.
Well there is...and it's here.
I think you can blame our membership of the eec for the mass influx of people into the uk
Yes ...with you there!
instead of patting people on the back for their unwise unfounded and pathetic comments then maybe you can make some comment yourself !Couldnt have put it better myself Graham.
Yes i work shifts and unsocial hours but then thats why i earn more than 26kI think he is on great money by working a night shift in London, he only posts at 2 to 3am, maybe he doesn't want to have a face off with us
ok lets have it the way you guys seem to want it = open the floodgates and let anyone in... how NOT to win friends and irritate people, eh!?
no proof of earnings if you love her then she is in = is that what you lot are really demanding
close but my kind of work takes a little bit more of trainingMaybe he's a masked up Fluffer on the Underground
university degrees dont count for much at all these days in the uk, this is probably due to the fact that some bright spark thought it might be a good idea if everyone goes to university and gets a degree, kids these days are lead to believe that getting a degree is the only way forward, of course the result is lots of people with degrees and no workYou really think so, do you?
What if I were to tell you that, as an ordinary OAPmy total Annual Income - inclusive of Occupational & State Retirement Pensions, respectively - amounts to just under £16k ... i.e., a full £10,000 lower than the Government's recommended minimum.
Am I to suppose - if you are to be believed - that someone in my financial situation should be debarred from bringing his/her non~European partner to the country where he/she was born and bred?
... regardless of being considered "affluent" enough to continue contributing to HM Inland Revenue coffers.
For the record, my wife is a BSc honours graduate whose degree is worth bugger all in the UK - irrespective of a successful 22-year teaching career in the Philippines. How fair is that, huh?
Yet, despite the fact that neither of us is working, we still manage to live comfortably - WITHOUT the need to rely on public funds.
So think on ...
26k is a ballpark figure and honestly in these present times i dont think that its set too high
Yes and with all due respect, due to your age you are probably a lot better established than a lot of these younger guys wanting to bring someone to live here
they have to set a figure and i am sure whatever figure it is someone somewhere will not agree
we have to have controls and yes some people will fall short of these minimum requirements but just because they fall short of these requirements does not mean that these requirements are wrong
if they set the figure at 15k then what do you say to the guy who only earns 14k because for sure he is going to be telling you that 15k is set too high
Piggery? Poultry? Sari sari? Something along those lines?
BTW..Thats not a derogatory comment as those are pretty common start ups for the average Joe foreigner in the Philippines.
I for one believe that the R.P should have minimum financial requirements for foreigners wanting to do business here.. For their own welfare.... 26K not nearly enough in my humble opinion.
There are more European beggars here than you might think because they thought the could compete with local businessmen.
Sad to see but there you go.
Be careful.
what ever we all earn, we must live on that amount, some can some cant, if you earn £30+ a year you may spend that amount same goes for more or less, its how you spend it, i agree that living in london may cost more, but if you could not afford living there you move, whats the saying you cut your cloth according to the way you live, some thing like that
It depends on which of the two angles one looks at this from.
Whose case? Now who is making assumptions.....
It's no secret that on average it is more expensive to live in London and it's no secret that wages are higher in London. There are exceptions of course but lets assume average figures. So for that reason I would say a different figure should be used in keeping with the average person living in another part of the country where costs of living and wages are lower than the national average. So lets say for the minute that a 26k threshold is okay for London, then it is going to be too much for many of those living in other parts of the UK (not all but many). So the figure the government comes up with should at least recognise the above, somehow.
2 ways it could be done.
1] Don't use the national average or London based figures. Use a threshold in keeping with those areas of the country where wages and costs of living are lowest. (Seemingly Belfast is an example of such a city)
2] Attempt to vary the threshold regionally. This sort of thing is already in place in the form of London weighting, for example where London wages and London costs of living for are taken into account.
Its all very well someone living and working in London saying 26k or 30k ought to be the minimum when that figure is simply too much in other parts of the country.
If we look at it another way, set it at 26k for Londoners and then only the average Londoner will be eligible to bring in a spouse from a non EU country as Mr Average from other parts of the country wont be earning that threshold figure.
Yes. There needs to be an amount of fairness with whatever the governement introduces. They can be so good at coming up with laws and figures etc that never seem to be thought out thoroughly enough.You really think so, do you?
What if I were to tell you that, as an ordinary OAP
Am I to suppose - if you are to be believed - that someone in my financial situation should be debarred from bringing his/her non~European partner to the country where he/she was born and bred?
For the record, my wife is a BSc honours graduate whose degree is worth bugger all in the UK - irrespective of a successful 22-year teaching career in the Philippines. How fair is that, huh?
Yet, despite the fact that neither of us is working, we still manage to live comfortably - WITHOUT the need to rely on public funds.
So think on ...
How do i sign?
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/32167
Hold on!!...you dont have to share your opinion on this e-petition !!!
it specifically says ''Stop proposed changes to the Immigration Laws in June 2012 by Theresa May. Not increase the Spouse qualification Income to £25700.
you have no fiance , no spouse , single ....so just mind your own business and suck it
''Don't be serious..Be Sincere''
Dont you think this debate has become a little bit one sided to say the least on this forumHold on!!...you dont have to share your opinion on this e-petition !!!
it specifically says ''Stop proposed changes to the Immigration Laws in June 2012 by Theresa May. Not increase the Spouse qualification Income to £25700.
you have no fiance , no spouse , single ....so just mind your own business and suck it
seeing that some of you on this forum seem to be living in cloud cuckoo land when it comes to how much money is needed to support 2 people so i need to add some balance here
most of you dont agree with the 26k figure but then none of you can come up with a alternative figure
ok you love your sweetheart but that does not give her the right to enter the uk and reside here without any controls or checks
That's because it is difficult to come up with a figure. And in truth anybodies proposed or required figure would vary for many reasons.
I use to have a small poultry farm near naga city but that never worked out because getting a good price for them once they were fully reared was impossible
I still have a share in a internet shop in makati which does quite well and a couple of food outlets in dumaguete
Local businessmen hate nothing more than a "kanu" coming in and making some money
security is my main concern when i am in the philippines and i dont have much to do with any pinoy males unless i really have to
i dont think anyone is on cuckoo land just the goverment, most on here work hard to make a better future for themselves and there partners, we dont ask for anything from the goverment at all, it seems the goverment are asking more from me and others,again i say you live within your means so what ever figure is mentioned you will get by
Steve here has a fair point. One tends to live up to ones means in many cases. Thus another factor in making it hard for anyone to specify a set figure.
I used to have a piggery in Quezon province but know Naga quite well as I lived about 50 miles away in a small town called Tigaon in Cam Sur some years back..I use to have a small poultry farm near naga city but that never worked out because getting a good price for them once they were fully reared was impossible
I still have a share in a internet shop in makati which does quite well and a couple of food outlets in dumaguete
Local businessmen hate nothing more than a "kanu" coming in and making some money
security is my main concern when i am in the philippines and i dont have much to do with any pinoy males unless i really have to
I assume that your "share" is only 40% as you are a single person so who owns 60% of your capital input?
Personally I would never do business as a single person here due mainly to that 60/40 rule..
Pretty high risk strategy IMO.
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