deltaromeo , we know your not attacking, we all have our opinions, and enjoy a heated discusion now and again
deltaromeo , we know your not attacking, we all have our opinions, and enjoy a heated discusion now and again
I agree. Everyone's contributions are welcome.Originally Posted by imagine
deltaromeo , we know your not attacking, we all have our opinions, and enjoy a heated discusion now and again.
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so your tempted ?
i just thought ,, once we become a muslin country surely it will be open house free to bring in as many wives and family as we want
Hmm....I think it's thosei just thought ,, once we become a muslin country surely it will be open house free to bring in as many wives and family as we wantwho've caused the
looks great, bet you miss it graham
Yes.
My boy leaves home this summer.
Yes graham it certainly is not a fair playing field
i find it allthat this can & will happen
hi stevie, hows u bud?? i honestly can't see this being implemented in April.. its too much too soon, but i wouldnt put anything past this tory/lib government thats for sure..
So you think it might not happen?
or
it might happen?
They are proposals to try and address abuses of the system. There's been more posts on this thread now than signatories of the petition.
To quote Theresa May
"Families are the bedrock of society. Family migration must be based on a real and continuing relationship, not a marriage of convenience or a marriage that is forced or is a sham. It is obvious that British citizens and those settled here should be able to marry or enter into a civil partnership with whomever they choose. But if they want to establish their family life in the UK, rather than overseas, then their spouse or partner must have a genuine attachment to the UK, be able to speak English, and integrate into our society, and they must not be a burden on the taxpayer. Families should be able to manage their own lives. If a British citizen or a person settled here cannot support their foreign spouse or partner, then they cannot expect the taxpayer to do it for them."
i can't see how they can possibly let this go through.. ive got a good feeling that they cant let this happen.. it is basically excluding the majority of people from applying.
Based on what?
For all it's worth, my opinion is that for something which will affect quite a lot of people - not millions, but nevertheless, more than a few hundred, the internet is pretty quiet about it.
To me, it sounds more like government bluster on the lines of "well we'd like to do this, but..." Governments aren't totally stupid, they won't want to implement something which will be challenged.
It was raised at the tory conference, and that was preaching to the crowd.
I think they'll change some things, but this is quite a big change. I personally think it's not likely to happen.........yet. BUT it might.
I am not a betting man, but if I was, I would stick a tenner on it not happening, put it that way.
If they really wanted to make a change that would be more likely to stick, they'd make it law that no benefits paid for 5 years say, and each applicant would have to submit accounts to prove their ability to support her/him. That would frankly be better than an arbitary wage check, as goodness knows what someone's outgoings are, and this would be safer for the government in the long run. To pay for that extra admin - stick up the cost of the visa by a couple of hundred.
Anyway, not up to me, let them do as they will.
they could extend the spouse visa so its valid for 5 yrs, but that's aidea, better keeping it as it is, but as you've said, after 2yrs you would have to apply for FLR, why because they wouldn't have to make many changes in the spouse visa, but more importantly, its more money if everyone had to apply for FLR
i think they will do it, this gov and previous labour govs have brought in many changes, the life in uk test, the English language test, raising the minimum age to 21 (then having to lower it) all these in the last 5yrs or so.
Brits married to non Europeans are a minority, and all the economic problems with have the majority of Brits don't give a damn
the problem is, if that person is married to a Brit, European or someone with ILR they (the Brit,European or person with ILR) can still claim the benefits ( and why not !, they've paid their taxes and are entitled to them)
so i doubt how much the gov will actually save.
Having a job at the time of application is no guarantee that you'll still have a job even a few months down the line, so rather an unreliable factor anyway.
The no benefits rule should be more than enough.
yes your right Terpe, they want to set the figure high enough so you cannot claim certain benefits, would be no point in setting it too low as people might be able to claim certain benefits still.
i worked with someone, he refused a pay increase a number of times, because if he got the increase it would reduce certain benefits he got, so in fact if he took the pay increase he would in fact be worse off
Just singed the petition, will be asking my friends and relatives to sign it too, this is worrying for me as I am marrying my mahal the end of the year, I have a good stable job, earn over 1k per month, but earn less than the minimum requirement.
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched. They must be felt with the heart.
also what if your retired, what if you have a disability and don't work, what if your working or even not working but have large savings, what if your spouse could earn the minimum income or even more, as in my case the misses wage is double what i earn.
a whole can of worms will be opened up, challenges in court for being unfair also this will not effect a non British European living in the UK bring their spouse here, its madness
...s ... etc., etc. etc. ...
...- when you really start to THINK about it - the list is virtually endless ...
Presumably you just have to show evidence of income, as the self-employed do.
Then show disposable income....which is what it is all about.
Competing with the local labour force on 2-300 pesos a day would be fun, even if you do find a rice-planter's hat to fit.
You're not permitted to work there anyway of course, unless you have a work permit (most unlikely).
Running your own business is one way (which I did for 3 years), but I think even that would need to be in a local's name.
Just had a look at the e-petition on the government site, the "income barrier to genuine family migration" is way down on page 44 of all e-petitions and only has a measly 125 signatures
You think anybody knows it is really there and can hear all 125 of us shouting?
We are fighting as a small minority and the majority can only see people like us as bringing more immigrants to this country. We are shouting on deaf ears but we should not give up.
Yes Rory the amount of signatures are very dissapointing.
I hope before April it reaches the 1000 mark but to be honest i cant see it myself
This petition is a bit of a dead duck. You need to lobby your MP's and get them on side, don't just email them make an appointment to see them at their local surgery and work on friends and colleagues to do likewise for you. Try to get in the local papers and radio.
12 years ago I was involved in a bit of a local campaign and must have met my MP (now Secretary of State) 5 or 6 times in as many months - They are there to represent you
Agreed, Ded. Even MPs have said ( Commons Procedures Committee ) that the Government's e-petitions website is " misleading " people about their chances of influencing policy. It creates " unrealistically high " expectations for the impact of submissions. Only when 100,000 ( + ) signatures have been gathered does the House's back-bench business committee have the power to timetable a parliamentary debate. That happened with issues like stripping benefits from rioters and scrapping fuel duty rises.
Heart attack arthur,liked alcohol way too much,very overweight,got totally p*ssed-up and went for a swim diving head-first into the sea............The End!if MAYBE that's WHY he's now deceased.
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
if only every one that took the time to sign instead of just looking i for one signed and would sing again keep up the good work
I'm a caregiver just like robert and my gf who i visited 5 times hope to marry and come uk next year all changed now due to this income increase.
I do agree somthing needs to be done as alot of imigrants come to the uk and its only because the goverment are stupid and us true british who work hard paying the price but true love finds a way to betogether me and my gf will keep our promise and be with each forever no matter what till death do us part
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