Arthur and Steve, sorry! but you may? be giving Leen misleading information.

In my post #8 with the link, if you go on to read it, RickyR states that he was required to have a CENOMAR posts #2 & #5.

I also know KeithAngel had to have one.

On this thread. http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....in+philippines

Read Terpe's post #16 halfway down.

If Leen read it was a requirement, then some more research needs to be done, but better to be safe than sorry.