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    Quote Originally Posted by tone View Post
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    Totally taking the piss, especially the cost of bringing dependants here. Hose of you that have to bring your family here you have my sympathies...disgraceful!
    i worked it out i spent more than £4,000 for the misses and kids on visa's and most of that was 7yrs ago, i hate to think what that cost would be now
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Thanks joe I thought it was but just checking. And your right I cant afford to lose that much.
    Yes. I sympathise Andy. In a way I can accept the fees for the Spouse visa (not happy of course, you understand) but charging for dependent children to such a level is well out of order. I didn't realise the charge was the same.

    My way of thinking is that for a range of reasons, is that for someone in your position can't really afford to have one succesful application and one refused application (one is no good without the other) so even more reason to ensure that the applications succeed.

    While waiting till later this year, at least you have given yourself a chance to plan and prepare meticulously........


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    settlement fee is the same for an adult and a child but for FLR or ILR its roughly around half the cost of an adult, but then not long ago it was free when the child was included on the parents FLR/ILR app form.

    almost certainly if the mothers (probably the mother is the one who's is applying 95% of the time) is refused the child's visa will be refused too, because the child is a dependent of the mother, basically what happens visa wise to the mother, will probably happen to the child.

    more likely to happen is the mother will be granted and the child refused because the mother hasn't proven 'sole responsibility' or custody of the child.
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    I see.

    What about a child born in the UK to UK citizen and a Filipina spouse on a spouse visa? Would ILR requirements / charges apply to the child then or presumably not as it would be British?


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    if a child is born in the UK and one parent has at least ILR then the child is British
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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Yes. I sympathise Andy. In a way I can accept the fees for the Spouse visa (not happy of course, you understand) but charging for dependent children to such a level is well out of order. I didn't realise the charge was the same.

    My way of thinking is that for a range of reasons, is that for someone in your position can't really afford to have one succesful application and one refused application (one is no good without the other) so even more reason to ensure that the applications succeed.

    While waiting till later this year, at least you have given yourself a chance to plan and prepare meticulously........
    Thanks for that lastlid much appreciated mate. I will just wait till everything is in order but I will still need help from you guys when the time comes..


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    if a child is born in the UK and one parent has at least ILR then the child is British
    Or in our case maybe Manx


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    What we have to bear in mind is these are only proposals it could go up!.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Or in our case maybe Manx
    one thing to consider if any kids are born in the phils, they would be British by descent and their children would only automatically be British if born in the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    one thing to consider if any kids are born in the phils, they would be British by descent and their children would only automatically be British if born in the UK.
    talking about british my descent joe my 2 young kids that were born in the PH which had there dual passport now english and Ph can stay here in anytime they like..and if we decide to get back to PH would they still be able to come back here without hasstle..
    and about me applying for ILR i have my one kid dependent and hopefully after 3 years(that would be next year) if the time will allow i would apply for citizenship would she be still do the same as me..can she apply..as well shes only 8 years old at the moment though
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    If they have British passports....no worries about getting into the UK. They're British citizens....forever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moy View Post
    talking about british my descent joe my 2 young kids that were born in the PH which had there dual passport now english and Ph can stay here in anytime they like..and if we decide to get back to PH would they still be able to come back here without hasstle..
    and about me applying for ILR i have my one kid dependent and hopefully after 3 years(that would be next year) if the time will allow i would apply for citizenship would she be still do the same as me..can she apply..as well shes only 8 years old at the moment though
    as Graham has said they are ok, when you apply for citizenship you can register her as British at the same time using form MN1. as she will be under 18

    http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/bri...ritishcitizen/
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    If they have British passports....no worries about getting into the UK. They're British citizens....forever.
    thanks for the reply graham and yes they have british passport issued in HK that we applied from PH
    BUT am wondering if its still worthy to when there PH passport will expire its worthy to renew it..just to say they are dual ..something to show to PH IMMIGRATION in case they will tax them when we decide to get back
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    as Graham has said they are ok, when you apply for citizenship you can register her as British at the same time using form MN1. as she will be under 18

    http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/bri...ritishcitizen/
    ah..thanks for the links joe
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    The UK Visa fees must be amongst the most expensive, if not being the most expensive in the world.
    Visa processing is outsourced to VFS, and then routed on to a central Embassy for the region where the Entry Clearance Officers make the decision.
    Consular services from the Embassy are limited and pretty poor, with many restrictions on appointments and times, with incredible costs.
    Passport processing is now by courier to a central processing centre, applicatons for a passport cannot be made in person. The ridiculous thing is that an expat in Calais would have to send his application to Dusseldorf instead of the UK...
    The British Embassy tend to be the biggest and most secure after the US Embassy in most countries, and have several of the military grade range rovers (half a million pounds each??). What on earth do they actually offer to British citizens for all that money?
    Here in Oman, the British Embassy have a terrible reputation, and a friend of mine who is half British/half French, uses the French one because they actually welcome him and help him, and normally offer a glass of wine!

    To obtain a 10 year visit visa for my wife and step daughter will cost circa 900 quid. I have just applied for them to get USA B1/B2 10 year visit visas, this is costing 65 pounds, and is done on the same day with an interview and processing at the USA Embassy by American staff. With these visas they automatically get entry for 6 months at a time, and can extend for a further 6 months on each visit to the states.

    The UK visit visa will limit her to 3 months per visit, and a max of 6 months per year...
    She can't even obtain a UK driving license based on the family visit visa, despite only being allowed to legally drive on hers for a maximum of 3 months, and that doesn't reset on each visit.
    Tired of the UK and it's crap? Yes I am.


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    Oh yes, and just reminded by an e-mail from the Australian Immigration (registered after I completed a points test on the website), offering 9000 Aussie Dollars housing grant to go and live there, work and contribute to society and pay taxes with a good quality of life in return.
    The UK only rewards those who are screw ups and losers. Work all your life and pay tax in the UK, and you're treated like crap!


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyR View Post
    ....Tired of the UK and it's crap? Yes I am.
    Oh dear Ricky, that's very sad.
    You should actually try living here


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyR View Post
    Oh yes, and just reminded by an e-mail from the Australian Immigration (registered after I completed a points test on the website), offering 9000 Aussie Dollars housing grant to go and live there............
    You might find you need that 9000 dollars.
    By all accounts housing costs in Oz are very high.
    Like for like much much higher than UK


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyR View Post
    Oh yes, and just reminded by an e-mail from the Australian Immigration (registered after I completed a points test on the website), offering 9000 Aussie Dollars housing grant to go and live there............
    You might find you need that 9000 dollars.
    By all accounts housing costs in Oz are very high.
    Like for like much much higher than UK


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    on a UK visit visa, you can visit up to 6 months in 1yr and a single trip can be up to 6 months,

    i think if her license is recognized here she can drive , its only when you become a resident or the UK is your permanent home you need to pass your test in the first year.

    from what I've seen some of those who goto Oz have to work longer hours and 6 or 7 days a week to get by, i don't call that a better Quality of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyR View Post
    The UK Visa fees must be amongst the most expensive, if not being the most expensive in the world.


    Here in Oman, the British Embassy have a terrible reputation, and a friend of mine who is half British/half French, uses the French one because they actually welcome him and help him, and normally offer a glass of wine!

    Quote Originally Posted by RickyR View Post
    Oh yes, and just reminded by an e-mail from the Australian Immigration (registered after I completed a points test on the website),
    You are lucky Rickyr, you got an option for your family to live wherever you want because you got a great job with great pay,...majority of us here have to put up with the immigration fees!!!
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    Sorry for the rant, just fed up of the costs. In recent years on the forum I've seen more and more genuine people with genuine relationships penalised for either not having a high enough income or being hit with ridiculous fees.

    i think if her license is recognized here she can drive , its only when you become a resident or the UK is your permanent home you need to pass your test in the first year.
    Thats how it should be Joe, but unfortunately I had a friend caught out by the same issue a few years back. He got a speeding ticket on one visit to the UK, returned the following year and got caught again, the police told him that the 3 months doesn't reset, which seems silly to me.

    I understand Terpe that costs are higher in Aussie, but salaries also are higher. One job that does keep coming up in our professional magazines is for harbour masters/pilots in New Zealand, and I've told the wifey that it would be a good job to settle down into in 10 years time when i'm older and wiser haha.

    I love so much about the UK, but I hate going back and seeing the way my sisters and their families live when they are actually earning the national average salary. They work hard like most people, and yet seem to end up with little or no disposable income.

    If you live in the country, it can be a beautiful and friendly place. In the big towns and cities, the UK is getting so expensive and so hard to live in. I've heard that some people are spending 300-500 pound a month in fuel commuting to work! Thats scary!


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    i think the cop got it wrong, you need to pass your test within one year when you become a resident or UK is your permenant home..

    i know some filipinos (and others ! ) on work permits thought if they left the country and went back to the phils for a holiday, then came back they could drive for a year again without taking the UK test . not when the UK is your home
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    and everyone is entitled to a Ricky

    you can only about whats going on here
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