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    Yes. I used to go up there, to Crieff and a few other places in Scotland to buy some bits and bobs and take them back down to Manchester and flog em.........


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    This kind of glass is sought after and worth a few bob now, particularly the best pieces, if you have any in your attic, or anywhere else for that matter.

    " During the 1920’s a type of glass known as Monart Ware (later Monart Glass) was produced by the company of John Moncrieff Limited of Perth in Scotland. Production began in 1924 following the “accidental” making of a prototype by Salvador Ysart, a Spanish born glassblower employed by the firm, which was seen by Isobel Moncrieff, wife of the proprietor. The name “Monart” was simply formed by taking the prefix “Mon” from Moncrieff and the suffix “art” form Ysart. "


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... Perth & Perthshire!! Thanks for these links.

    May I say, Arthur that the view in the Caithness glass brochure is fantastic. Classic scenery from your neck of the woods.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    This kind of glass is sought after and worth a few bob now, particularly the best pieces, if you have any in your attic, or anywhere else for that matter.
    Too RIGHT, it is ...

    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    " During the 1920’s a type of glass known as Monart Ware (later Monart Glass) was produced by the company of John Moncrieff Limited of Perth in Scotland. Production began in 1924 following the “accidental” making of a prototype by Salvador Ysart, a Spanish born glassblower employed by the firm, which was seen by Isobel Moncrieff, wife of the proprietor. The name “Monart” was simply formed by taking the prefix “Mon” from Moncrieff and the suffix “art” form Ysart. "
    ... sadly, this firm's long gone. I have a friend, though, whose first job was as a clerk with John Moncrieffe's Glassworks; he later went on to be Senior Buyer - then Purchasing Manager - at Beckman's Scientific Instrument Makers' factory in Glenrothes.

    Btw ... you are spot-on with your history of Monart glass in Perth - I'm impressed!


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    May I say, Arthur that the view in the Caithness glass brochure is fantastic. Classic scenery from your neck of the woods.
    Yes ... of course you may - - the scenery's marvellous!


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    To be honest, I always thought that if a town had a cathedral, it was a city. But evidentally not. Perth is one large county, not to have a city in it!

    I am not sure if I said but I must have driven through Perth a million times as it is the gateway to the North East of Scotland (heading north of course). On my 5 to 6 hour journey down to Manchester, I always found the Perthshire scenery, from a driver's viewpoint, the most interesting as one headed out of Dundee and through Perth.

    Perthshire evidently backs onto Aberdeenshire and I have tried that route but its not such an easy drive

    Another recollection of Perth / Perthshire are the Salmon Ladders in Pitlochry, at the right time of year of course.

    Also spent a week camping, one summer around Loch Rannoch.



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    When I 1st travelled to England I just had to visit Perth.....The name of the city that I was born in Western Aussie....Here is some info on how it became to be called Perth down under if anybody is interested.


    The city of Perth in Western Australia was named by Captain James Stirling in 1829 after Perth, Scotland, in honor of the birthplace and parliamentary seat in the British House of Commons of Sir George Murray, Secretary of State for War and the Colonies
    first explorer to have a favourable opinion of the Swan River was Captain James Stirling who, in March 1827, explored the area in HMS Success which first anchored off Rottnest, and later in Cockburn Sound. Stirling was accompanied by the botanist Charles Fraser, whose report on the quality of the soil was instrumental in the decision to establish the Swan River Colony. With Frederick Garling, Stirling and Fraser climbed Mount Eliza, and had explored the Swan River upstream as far as the Ellen Brook junction.

    Stirling arrived back in England in July 1828, promoting in glowing terms the agricultural potential of the area. His lobbying was for the establishment of a free settlement, unlike the other penal settlements at New South Wales, Port Arthur and Norfolk Island. As a result of these reports, and a rumour the French were about to establish a penal colony in the western part of Australia, the Colonial Office assented to the proposal in mid-October 1828.

    The first ship to reach the Swan River was the HMS Challenger, captained by Charles Fremantle, arriving on 25 April 1829. After anchoring off Garden Island, Captain Fremantle declared the Swan River Colony for Britain on 2 May 1829. Perth was founded on 12 June 1829 by Captain James Stirling as the political centre of the free-settler Swan River Colony. Stirling administered the Swan River settlement from June 1829 until August 1832.

    The Parmelia under Captain Stirling arrived on 1 June 1829, and the official foundation of the colony took place on 12 August, with the chopping down of a tree by the wife of Captain William Dance of the Sulphur, Mrs Helen Dance. This event took place on an area of land allotted for military barracks, and is commemorated at this site by a plaque set in the footpath of Barrack Street.[7]

    The two separate townsites of the colony developed slowly, to eventually become Perth and the port city of Fremantle

    I hope you enjoyed.....Koala


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    Although always aware Perth, Western Australia came to be named after Scotland's ancient capital, I never knew how. Amazingly, though ... the HUGE, modern Australian city mushroomed into one of the LARGEST "down under" - soon dwarfing its Scottish counterpart many times over.

    I'm much obliged for this most interesting account of the history of your birthplace.


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    Love Pitlochry a few clicks north of Perth.
    Edradour distillery is a must visit.
    I was a whiskey broker but it never felt like work.
    I never touch the stuff but what a wonderful product
    HM treasury would concur,I'm sure


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    To be honest, I always thought that if a town had a cathedral, it was a city.
    ... that's always been MY understanding too.

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    Perth is one large county, not to have a city in it!
    Perthshire ... referred to locally as 'The Big County'.


    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post

    Perthshire evidently backs onto Aberdeenshire and I have tried that route but its not such an easy drive
    Um ... not directly, no. It actually borders Angus ... the Aberdeenshire boundary being reached at the approximate point where the dual carriageway skirts Laurencekirk on the one side - and St Cyrus on the other.

    However, I'm familiar with the B-road you mention - via the small town of Coupar Angus - as it's a route my son frequently uses in order to bypass Dundee. Mileage wise, it's shorter ... but - with its many twists and turns - takes much longer to navigate.


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    I personally would like to of seen Colchester in Essex get city status......it is the oldest recorded town in England




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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Mileage wise, it's shorter ... but - with its many twists and turns - takes much longer to navigate.
    You can say that again....


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    You can say that again....
    ... "Mileage wise, it's shorter ... but - with its many twists and turns - takes much longer to navigate."

    How's that? ...

    ... well ... you DID imply that I could say it again!


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    Quote Originally Posted by tanga View Post
    Love Pitlochry a few clicks north of Perth.
    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post

    Another recollection of Perth / Perthshire are the Salmon Ladders in Pitlochry, at the right time of year of course.

    Also spent a week camping, one summer around Loch Rannoch.

    Pitlochry - located just off the A9 - approximately 27 miles from Perth IS, indeed, renowned for its salmon ladders ... its other - though, by no means lesser - claim to fame being its Festival Theatre which (especially during the summer season) boasts local, national and international audiences.

    Nearby Loch Rannoch is a popular tourist attraction also,


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