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    My Mrs says always think positive . Sometimes its a challenge to do that.


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    That is one of my wifes sayings but i always say there is nothing to be positive about




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    You cant just blame 1 government for this. Labour were too lenient and the tories would sell their own grandmother if they could. But either way we are the losers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    You cant just blame 1 government for this. Labour were too lenient and the tories would sell their own grandmother if they could. But either way we are the losers.
    from one extreme to another, at least under labour you could bring your wife here, now under the tories many can't. yes you can blame the tories, it's the tories who are doing it, sure labour should have deported the illegals quicker, stopped visa abuse and dodgy colleges. but this is going too far, yet Europeans can bring their wife and kids and claims benefits freely and some here will be married to non europeans and they are paying taxes for these europeans and they cant bring their wife here
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    You cant just blame 1 government for this. Labour were too lenient and the tories would sell their own grandmother if they could. But either way we are the losers.
    graham remember ' The Primary Purpose rule' one of the first things Jack Straw scrapped when he became Home Secretary.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/po...05/straw.shtml

    The Government has scrapped one of Britain's toughest immigration laws. The Primary Purpose rule, which has barred entry into the UK for thousands of people married to British citizens, has been dropped.

    Home Secretary Jack Straw said it was being ended because "it is arbitrary, unfair and ineffective and has penalised genuine cases, divided families and unnecessarily increased the administrative burden on the immigration system."

    The move was described as "hugely welcome" by Claude Moraes of the Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants, who said it would be beneficial, both practically and symbolically.

    Previously, the Primary Purpose rule required foreign nationals married to British citizens to prove that the primary purpose of their marriage was not to obtain British residency.

    If those wishing to take up residency in the UK could not prove this to the satisfaction of immigration officers, they were denied entry into the United Kingdom. The change in the law is expected to place the burden of proof on immigration officials rather than those applying for residency.

    In abolishing the rule, Labour is honouring one of its election manifesto commitments. The abolition of the rule will bring immediate benefits to more than 1,000 couples who were barred from the UK on the basis of the rule in 1996 alone.

    Mr Straw said he was determined to build an immigration and asylum system that was "fairer, faster and firmer". He stressed that the other rules on married partners applying to enter Britain - such as those saying the marriage must not be one of convenience and not place a financial burden on the state - would remain.

    Mr Straw said the rules would be amended from Wednesday and added, "Entry clearance officers are being instructed not to refuse entry clearance applications where the refusal depends solely on the primary purpose rule."

    Mr Straw's announcement came in a written reply to a question from Keith Vaz, the Labour MP for Leicester East, who was quick to welcome the change.

    Mr Vaz said, "This is an historic decision. Jack Straw should be congratulated on this move. Thousands of people separated under this cruel and malicious rule will now be treated with the respect they deserve. Today's announcement is the first step towards restoring justice to Britain's immigration policy."
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    The 'usual suspects' from the Indian Sub-continent will not be affected by this because as usual, they will club together and come up with the usual cock and bull stories/fraudulant use of 'shared' property and family names etc etc to scam their way through the system as they have with mortgages and finance and every other aspect of life in this country that involves rules and laws.


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    maybe we might be able to find something in human rights around this surely they cant just do this without some retubution


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    some one on drugs no job can marry anyone they want have as many kids they like get paid to sit on there ass al day have more rights than the one who want to have the choice to marry whoever they pick there is no such thing as fair justice in uk


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    Want a bet Hawk? We will just have to see. I think its best to get legal advice and see where we stand.


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    well lads and lasses, i cannot imagine my life without Emma, and i will do what ever it takes for us to have a good life, yes we lucky i have a good job and emma is working too, but if it came to it and emma was in the phils and the only way we could be together was for me to stay here and her there, then thats how it will be,


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    well lads and lasses, i cannot imagine my life without Emma, and i will do what ever it takes for us to have a good life, yes we lucky i have a good job and emma is working too, but if it came to it and emma was in the phils and the only way we could be together was for me to stay here and her there, then thats how it will be,
    What kind of marriage is that Steve? I understand what you mean but its ridiculous.


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    could be the only marriage what is avalible to many, i dont mean to offend anyone but my years before Emma came into my life was lonely and then we had over 2 years talking on the com then we meet and life is jut as wonderful then as it is now,if i did not have what i have now well maybe the next best thing is what i have said


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    Poor Mercedes seems to be having a crap time in Singapore...being treated as a bloody slave, just as I had anticipated.

    They confiscated her mobile phone, no days off, and the poor little thing has to lift around this heavy old woman.

    Only had about 3 brief Facebook messages since she's been gone there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Poor Mercedes seems to be having a crap time in Singapore...being treated as a bloody slave, just as I had anticipated.

    They confiscated her mobile phone, no days off, and the poor little thing has to lift around this heavy old woman.

    Only had about 3 brief Facebook messages since she's been gone there.
    It must be hard for you mate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Poor Mercedes seems to be having a crap time in Singapore...being treated as a bloody slave, just as I had anticipated.

    They confiscated her mobile phone, no days off, and the poor little thing has to lift around this heavy old woman.

    Only had about 3 brief Facebook messages since she's been gone there.
    Sorry to hear this Graham - no doubt you will be genning up on things - I've just come across this

    http://barangaysingapore.com/employm...re-labor-laws/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Sorry to hear this Graham - no doubt you will be genning up on things - I've just come across this

    http://barangaysingapore.com/employm...re-labor-laws/
    Good find there Dedworth

    Hope it will help you Graham

    It must be frustrating not being able to talk to each other and gauge how things are.


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    Your not offending anyone steve your just saying what comes from your heart.. In reality it could be different. Believe me I am married my wife is over there and I will admit I get lonely. Hoping that we will be together one day keeps me going,


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Your not offending anyone steve your just saying what comes from your heart.. In reality it could be different. Believe me I am married my wife is over there and I will admit I get lonely. Hoping that we will be together one day keeps me going,
    yes i am lucky i know, and like you say it could be differant, you have to live with what you have, this site helps, it helped me


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    I'm sick as a dog, because when she asked me if she should 'put in her papers' for a job in Singapore, as we hadn't met at that time I just said 'yes', not wanting her to miss out on an opportunity.

    If I'd realised they'd ship her out there so quickly (meanwhile holding her passport), I'd have said no, stay in the Phils at the job you already enjoy and I'll take care of you.

    Again they have taken her passport until her contract is completed.

    It's nothing more than slavery !


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    ...............Again they have taken her passport until her contract is completed....
    Is that legal?


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    Well, it's supposed to be an approved agency.

    Sounds more like people trafficking to me.

    By the time I'd met Mercedes the deed was done, as it were. The agency had her passport, booked her ticket (so they said) and she was committed to doing the 'training' and going.


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    just put this on terresa mays facebook page probly get arresed and on camarons as well equality you dont know the meaning weres my equality to have my wife come here from philippines and be told that i need to earn over £25000 just another abuse to my human rights to a familey life i should be able to have who ever i want as my wife


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    They're all a bunch of damned crooks.

    The Tory party Treasurer has just had to resign because of the corrupt practices he was recorded suggesting....ie....buying influence.


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    How did you get that on there hawk?


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    Graham my heart goes outr to you & mercedes surely there must be someway of cancelling this contract due to no days off & taking of passport




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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie c View Post
    Graham my heart goes outr to you & mercedes surely there must be someway of cancelling this contract due to no days off & taking of passport
    Thanks mate.

    Nothing I can do.

    I'd already offered to 'buy her out' of going, but at the time she felt obliged to them and looked upon it as a new experience for her.

    If Mercedes decides she wants out, then it will simply be a matter of money. It will be her decision, and I'll be happy to pay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Thanks mate.

    Nothing I can do.

    I'd already offered to 'buy her out' of going, but at the time she felt obliged to them and looked upon it as a new experience for her.

    If Mercedes decides she wants out, then it will simply be a matter of money. It will be her decision, and I'll be happy to pay.
    sad to read about mercedes with the contract, job, taking her phone ect, im so sorry to hear this,

    i hope its easy enough to do if she needs out,

    i can only imagine how you must feel,


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    sad to read about mercedes with the contract, job, taking her phone ect, im so sorry to hear this,

    i hope its easy enough to do if she needs out,

    i can only imagine how you must feel,
    Thanks Stewart.

    I just feel frustrated, because there's basically sod all I can do about it.

    Time will tell, but I'll help how ever I can to prevent her having to put up with the situation any longer than she needs to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Thanks Stewart.

    I just feel frustrated, because there's basically sod all I can do about it.

    Time will tell, but I'll help how ever I can to prevent her having to put up with the situation any longer than she needs to.

    Presumably she doesn't have access to the internet Graham? I was in contact with a Filipina nanny in China and she used to have to "sneak" about a bit and go on the internet when her employers were out of the house or late at night. It seemed to work to a degree.


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    just looked up her name and that came up


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