Well mate i can only sympathise with you & hope mercedes situation improves & knowing that if don't you will be there for her & will do everything to get her back home.
Well mate i can only sympathise with you & hope mercedes situation improves & knowing that if don't you will be there for her & will do everything to get her back home.
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Thanks Stevie.
from Davies Khan (immigration adviser)
the Migration Advisory Committee (MAC), in their consultation report, conclude that a minimum income threshold of £25,700.00 pa would prevent 64% of spousal settlement visas succeeding. That by itself indicates that two thirds of the British working population is paid below the average.
Those married to foreigners who vote Tory might as well be turkeys voting for Christmas.
:UOTE=joebloggs;349202]from Davies Khan (immigration adviser)
the Migration Advisory Committee (MAC), in their consultation report, conclude that a minimum income threshold of £25,700.00 pa would prevent 64% of spousal settlement visas succeeding. That by itself indicates that two thirds of the British working population is paid below the average.
Those married to foreigners who vote Tory might as well be turkeys voting for Christmas.[/QUOTE]
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KHAN ?
Originally Posted by grahamw48
KHAN ?no he's a decent guy, he's helped people out on this forum and many, many others
so 2/3rds of working pop is below the 25k average, this must be seen as unfair by uk and Euro courts.
I hadn't read that report at the time Joe.
'Seeking economic advantage' was traditionally the biggest hurdle, and one that still seems to be used.
Actually 1996 was an important year for me and the visa system, because that was the year me and the ex applied (successfully) to bring her 2 children to the UK, though I had actually been working in Hong Kong for about 3 years at that time, with the rest of the family living in the Phils. I later brought them all to Hong Kong while the visa application for the kids was being sorted.
The ex had obtained her own settlement visa back in 1991 of course.
At the time of applying for the dependants visas I had neither job, home nor income in the UK.
Didn't take me long to have all those in place on paper though.
also from Khan, maybe some hope..
Any legislation has to be 'compatible' with the terms of the Human Rights Act 1998. If it's incompatible, that legislation can be struck out by the courts. The HRA provides a national remedy to the European Convention on Human Rights, which was signed by the UK eons ago. Previously, if someone wished to assert that their 'human rights' had been infringed, then remedy would have to have been sought through the European Court for Human Rights - so costly as to generally not be worth it.
Should a sponsor's minimum income proposal be introduced to the Immigration Rules, it could be perceived as a disproportionate interference in the right to a private and family life (Article 8), as well as discriminatory, and thereby 'incompatible' with the HRA. After all, it is 'not fair' that one person can have their foreign spouse settle simply because they earn x amount, whereas the bloke next door can't because he falls shy of an arbitrary threshold.
but i think the tories have been talking about scrapping the HRA or changing it
Some interesting points there Joe, and definitely applicable I'd have thought.
Although there are certain elements of the HRA I'd be happy to see the back of, the Tories are part of a coalition and I don't see them having an easy time with something as major as the HRA....especially when the hand-wringers in the Liberal and Labour parties get their feathers ruffled over it.
i've always voted labour - i must be in one of labours safest seats, but i think you should have a legal right to bring your wife and step kids to the UK, money shouldn't come in to it,
we all remember what tony went thru, he struggled but got her here in the end, i bet his wife is working and not claiming public funds, but if that minimum limit is set, many will have no chance, and that's wrong.
This is a very worrying,sad & desperate situation many genuine couples will find themselves in me included if this also apllies to those spouses already here in the uk & who are about to apply for ilr.....i pray there will be a satisfactory outcome for all of us.
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... "May" be better setting an example by clamping down on those illegal curry houses she opened in her constituency.
WOW. Its all been kicking off while I have been away. Its been a bit like a sleeping dragon, this. I was wondering when it would rear its ugly head again. ( Ooops I wasnt talking about Theresa May ) ......
From the telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/t...direction.html
"As we report today, Theresa May, the Home Secretary, plans to change the law to make it harder for new immigrants to bring in members of their families. At present, immigrants need to be able to show that they will have a minimum income in Britain of £13,700 to be given permission to bring in a spouse, partner or dependant. Under the new proposals, that sum will increase to £25,700. Anyone hoping to bring in three or more children would have to demonstrate that they have a minimum income of £62,600. She also hopes to reintroduce some form of investigation that would allow the authorities to distinguish sham marriages from genuine ones – although that proposal may well fall foul of the judges, who ruled that previous attempts to investigate the basis of a marriage were “discriminatory” and so illegal"
Seems to be some confusion there...but what can we expect from the halfwits who report on these things ?
Yes. Well spotted. Just the odd word or two makes a lot of difference to the meaning of the report.Seems to be some confusion there...but what can we expect from the halfwits who report on these things.
... surely it's not as discrimatory - nor illegal - as splitting up families whose income falls below a certain level.
She appears to have very limited access, via a phone....perhaps one that she's managed to hide away, but of course probably unable to top it up if she's being kept a virtual prisoner.
Interesting Guardian article.....
"Theresa May's immigration plan is a one-size-fits-none fix
As a US-born citizen married to a UK national, I don't see how my income is correlated to my ability to fit in here"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ts-immigration
Thnks for posting lastlid
A very interesting & informative read
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Yes. Seems to sum things up quite well. Interesting for the likes of yoursleves and ourselves, what she says about ILR.Thnks for posting lastlid
A very interesting & informative read
Yes it seems the 2 to 5yr rule will definatley be implemented......Remains to be seen if this will affect those already here on spouse & fiance visas will there be a transitional period for the likes of us & yourselfs who knows we wait with baited breath
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Just had a very hard conversation with my g/f about this. Without going into specifics, there is absolutely no chance I could increase my income to over that amount in the current climate.
So should we finish, on the basis we could never be together? I can't move abroad because I have children from a previous marriage.
Don't want to go all melodramatic and all that, but I just feel like everything I have to look forward to has gone
Join the club mate.
I wonder if this cash for access has anything to do with it? Makes you wonder.
There has been some leakage of what? Pretty much what was already published.
Before anyone starts making life changing decisions much better to wait a while until the government actually comes out officially with the proposed new immigration rules.
For all we know there may be a number of 'if's' and 'but's', 'get out of jail free' clauses so to speak.
At this time we just don't know the full story.
I know it's easy for those of us here in UK with our loved ones, but it doesn't make sense to finalise any decisions based on what we don't know.
I fully agree ....................ties in with Steves post (Doom & Gloom) http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....doom-and-gloom
time goes very quickly, so just hold on about breaking up with your girlfriend, your children will grow up and you will be alone, myself and emma was talking for a few years before i even went out to the phils, we all have to deside what is best for ourselves and our future partners, dont let this goverment deside for you, where theres a will theres away
wait and see what happens, its not going to be easy for May, there will definitely be court cases, and the gov record is pretty poor at winning them
Yes. Hopefully, if / when the newer Spousal route measures are brought in, they are brought in a diluted fashion. That could still happen yet.
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