Arthur. At your prompting, I watched Question Time back on iPlayer (great invention eh). Interesting. My take on it is that many folk, in general, see and say that the UK has gone down the pan. And I think one of those reasons is because of the Comprehensive system. I think the folk sitting around the table didn't really hit on it too precisely but its the stigma associated with perceived failure with the 11 plus selection system that is the problem. Get around that and selection works well.

I noticed one of the men, Sir Simon Jenkins, on the panel said that selection takes place at 13 in the Public / Independent schools. He is wrong and it just goes to show how misinformation can be spewed out on the telly. I think in all of the Public schools in Manchester, at least, the selection takes place at 11. Simon Jenkins and his kids and his parents probably went to Public / Independent school through a selective system. Indeed he did, just checked. LOL. So it is okay for him to go through a selective process for schooling but not for the rest of the country.

23 current Cabinet ministers went through selective education. So did Ed Balls and Tony Blair, for example.

I used to watch Question time a lot as my previous mrs watched it. And I enjoyed it. I always noticed that they never ever delved far enough into any issue to answer any question satisfactorily.