hi terpe and lastlid, thanks for that i thought might be wise just to do the test anyway,but will advise her to do that,jhoy has better english than me in writing and spelling,so glad its not me that has to take test myself and would fail haha,jhoy did a college course in san jose del monte where she lives,but as you say might be easier just to do the test,as from what i read about it on here and the scores for the test,jhoy should pass them.thanks guys