Fracking Restared in Lancashire

[KeithD]

Stupid media scaremongering again

Some muppet on Sky was going on about contaminated ground water in the US, and a video of lighting gas coming out of a water tap . First of all ground water is a few metres down, Fracking takes place around 3km down, below impermeable rock, so the two cannot interact.

As for the US video, it takes place in a farm where the ground water passes through his methane rock. You will find natural methane in water in the South of England.

Fracking does cause minor earthquakes, but then it is no different than when we were coalmining in this country, and we still get minor tremors from the closed mines as the ground still settles.

[lastlid]

Stupid media scaremongering again

Some muppet on Sky was going on about contaminated ground water in the US, and a video of lighting gas coming out of a water tap . First of all ground water is a few metres down, Fracking takes place around 3km down, below impermeable rock, so the two cannot interact.

As for the US video, it takes place in a farm where the ground water passes through his methane rock. You will find natural methane in water in the South of England.

Fracking does cause minor earthquakes, but then it is no different than when we were coalmining in this country, and we still get minor tremors from the closed mines as the ground still settles.

Fracking. Now there's a topic. Going on in our own back yard. Fracking can potentialy be carried out to very high pressures; 5,000, 10,000, 15,000 psi and upwards depending on the geology and the depth of interest. As long as there is no geological conduit to surface then its okay, but in any one area there are chances of pre existing fault systems etc establishing a conduit to surface and in some cases the chances are higher than in others. Under the wrong circumstances it is perfectly possible for the effects of fracking to reach the surface or indeed interfere, in an environmental sense, with a shallower geological formation.

I sincerely hope the Lancashire fracking business takes off. There is a lot of resource potential there for the UK. But I hope that they dont blow out somebodies back garden in the process....

I think these 2 lines from the Lancashire Evening Post are most relevant....

“If we’re going to rely entirely on the operators, that is a lot of trust in them, and at the end of the day they are in it for profit.

“I don’t think they are fully in control and the regulations need to be more specific to fracking.”


http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/frac...ight-1-4453322

[lastlid]

If carried out under the right circumstances, at depth, then fracking cannot be heard or felt at surface. I have seen hundreds of instances first hand, it never once woke me up at night....

[lastlid]

Same for the gas storage work in Cheshire ( storage of natural gas in washed out salt beds ). As long as the local geology favours safe storage then it is okay.

[lastlid]

"Today's report, commissioned by the Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC), confirmed that the earthquakes were caused by fracking taking place in a geologically stressed and vulnerable area".

Under these sorts of circumstances is where it can go wrong....

http://www.itv.com/news/granada/2012...ng-to-restart/

[RickyR]

There was a movie about fracking on TV recently from the USA, made me definately not want to live nearby to it.

[lastlid]

There was a movie about fracking on TV recently from the USA, made me definately not want to live nearby to it.

I can understand peoples concerns, especially if they are local to the fracking site. Who wants to go to bed at night with the ground rumbling away underneath...... ........even with all the assurances in the world...

I recall drilling for gas in a farmers field in Portugal a few years ago and we blew out his waterwell across the field several hundred yards away, just by circulating water down the hole we were drilling. Admittedly we were shallow at the time but it proved there was communiction between the well and another part of his field......

To be honest I don't know how deep they are operating at in Lancashire but the deeper the better....less chance of issues.

[RickyR]

This is the film. Gasland, http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/

http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/whats-fracking

[lastlid]

This is the film. Gasland, http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/

http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/whats-fracking

A film as opposed to a documentary?

I applied for a job in Fracking just under 2 years ago, a job in Shale Gas to be precise......

[lastlid]

Heavy government / local government and HSE regulation is what is required. That's how oil and gas drilling etc was handled in Liverpool Bay.