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    visalogic??

    HI everyone!
    Its been already 7 mos preparation for the requirements of our application and which is tough time for us with my hubby waiting for that long :( Now the house renovation done and we think we are ready to face the next step. We planned to get a professional service to handle our case as we both working, and we don't like to get a visa refused because of a single mistake made in my application. So far with our researched we think the visalogic is a good choice to have their service. Do u think we got the right choice to choose visalogic to handle our case ? Or anyone can recommend us here any better than visalogic? here is the link http://www.visalogic.net/visalogic_a...e.aspx?t=1&t2=

    I hope anyone can answer me and that is so much appreciated thnx


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    Quote Originally Posted by joy_86jm View Post
    HI everyone!
    Its been already 7 mos preparation for the requirements of our application and which is tough time for us with my hubby waiting for that long :( Now the house renovation done and we think we are ready to face the next step. We planned to get a professional service to handle our case as we both working, and we don't like to get a visa refused because of a single mistake made in my application. So far with our researched we think the visalogic is a good choice to have their service. Do u think we got the right choice to choose visalogic to handle our case ? Or anyone can recommend us here any better than visalogic? here is the link http://www.visalogic.net/visalogic_a...e.aspx?t=1&t2=

    I hope anyone can answer me and that is so much appreciated thnx
    Hi. We used Visalogic for our spouse visa and so did friends of ours who used them to deal with what were anullment issues for a previous refusal on their fiancee visa application.

    Give me a few hours and I will get back to you.


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    It's good enough to know that you and your wife used that Lastlid thnx for the reply and i will wait for ur follow up response regarding with this matter.


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    Visalogic

    Firstly, they are OISC approved. See the link.......

    http://oisc.homeoffice.gov.uk/how_to...lated_adviser/

    Initially I was unaware of this forum and upon deciding to use an Adviser I phoned around 4 or 5 and engaged in long chats with each. Ultimately I disregarded any that weren't OISC approved. There was one company that seemed a bit cowboyish and wanted all the money up front before they started work. With Visalogic they asked for 50% up front.

    Initially they appoint a case worker who discusses your case and then they proceed only on the proviso that you have a good case. I think they tell you if your case is going to be either problematic or impossible.

    Evidently their business is in compiling visa applications. Not just for Philippine applicants but world wide. And my case worker had over 10 years experience in such matters. And my impression was that they knew pretty much all there is to know on the subject including UK immigration law. Personally I also needed them to know about Isle of Man immigration law etc which isn't completely and utterly the same as the UK and they also dealt with that quite comfortably.

    It was only after I had engaged Visalogic's help that I joined the forum. I therefore had the best of both worlds. Having said that there were a few instances where there appeared to be a divergence of approach between the two but my bottom line was that I was paying Visalogic for a professional service so I said to myself that I needed to go with their advice where there may have been any conflicting issues. To give you a very minor example....it has often been said on the forum that one should enclose pictures of presents and submit birthday / valentine cards as evidence of ones genuine relationship. Visalogic advised that whilst it was perfectly permissible to do that they would not add any weight to the case. So I went with that advice - just a small for instance.

    Any drawbacks? Possibly.

    First of all it is expensive.

    Secondly you may be forgiven for thinking that you might have immediate access to your caseworker but you don't necesarily. They deal with many visa applicants and at any one time can be prioritising with another applicant. Having said that, by email, normally the worst case scenario was a 24 hour wait but more often than not it was the same day or the morning after. When it came to nearer the time of the actual application then they tend to give you higher priority.

    Thirdly they are an extra step in the process so that means an extra chance to make a mistake. Whilst their immigration knowledge was evident, sometimes there was the occasional mistake. For example, they sent me a draft copy of the completed application form which had a couple of mistakes on it (one of which was my wife's DOB) however I guess that is the purpose of sending us a draft copy.

    In summary. Would I use them again? Yes I would.

    Don't hesitate to ask if you need any more on the topic.


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    Ultimately the visa applicant makes the final submission to the UKBA. Visalogic use TNT as their prefered carrier to the Philippines and post all of the acquired documents and paperwork from the UK to the spouse in the Philippines. Once my wife received all of my documents, the completed application form and then added her own documents then my wife then paid for the visa application and made the submission at VFS in Manila.

    A few nice touches.

    Visalogic made the appointment with VFS, for my wife.
    They checked the visa for any error, once my wife had received it. (The UKBA do make mistakes)
    They even phoned Isle of Man Immigration to enquire about the progress of the visa application.

    Other points of note.

    They don't really advise on anything not related to the visa application. For example they don't really comment on CFO type questions. Understandable I guess.

    I have to say that this is not a comparison between using the forum and using an adviser. In some ways the two are quite different in what they offer. The forum is fantastic for anything related to the Philippines.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Visalogic

    Firstly, they are OISC approved. See the link.......

    http://oisc.homeoffice.gov.uk/how_to...lated_adviser/

    Initially I was unaware of this forum and upon deciding to use an Adviser I phoned around 4 or 5 and engaged in long chats with each. Ultimately I disregarded any that weren't OISC approved. There was one company that seemed a bit cowboyish and wanted all the money up front before they started work. With Visalogic they asked for 50% up front.

    Initially they appoint a case worker who discusses your case and then they proceed only on the proviso that you have a good case. I think they tell you if your case is going to be either problematic or impossible.

    Evidently their business is in compiling visa applications. Not just for Philippine applicants but world wide. And my case worker had over 10 years experience in such matters. And my impression was that they knew pretty much all there is to know on the subject including UK immigration law. Personally I also needed them to know about Isle of Man immigration law etc which isn't completely and utterly the same as the UK and they also dealt with that quite comfortably.

    It was only after I had engaged Visalogic's help that I joined the forum. I therefore had the best of both worlds. Having said that there were a few instances where there appeared to be a divergence of approach between the two but my bottom line was that I was paying Visalogic for a professional service so I needed to go with their advice where there may have been any conflicting issues. To give you a very minor example....it has often been said on the forum that one should enclose pictures of presents and submit birthday / valentine cards as evidence of ones genuine relationship. Visalogic advised that whilst it was perfectly permissible to do that they would not add any weight to the case. So I went with that advice - just a small for instance.

    Any drawbacks? Possibly.

    First of all it is expensive.

    Secondly you may be forgiven for thinking that you might have immediate access to your caseworker but you don't necesarily. They deal with many visa applicants and at any one time can be prioritising with another applicant. Having said that, by email, normally the worst case scenario was a 24 hour wait but more often than not it was the same day or the morning after. When it came to nearer the time of the actual application then they tend to give you higher priority.

    Thirdly they are an extra step in the process so that means an extra chance to make a mistake. Whilst the knowledge was evident sometimes there was the occasional mistake. For example, they sent me a draft copy of the completed application form which had a couple of mistakes on it (one of which was my wife's DOB) however I guess that is the purpose of sending us a draft copy.

    In summary. Would I use them again? Yes I would.

    Don't hesitate to ask if you need any more on the topic.
    Aww that was a long helpful reply Lastlid
    You're making me aware that possibly they can possibly commit a mistakes that's why they are sending a draft for us to check and review, atleast only minor mistakes thoughLastlid thank you for sharing some ideas, and ur experienced with visa logic. Helping us with this at my time of need is so much appreciated. I will talk to my hubby later about this


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    Quote Originally Posted by joy_86jm View Post
    Aww that was a long helpful reply Lastlid
    You're making me aware that possibly they can possibly commit a mistakes that's why they are sending a draft for us to check and review, atleast only minor mistakes thoughLastlid thank you for sharing some ideas, and ur experienced with visa logic. Helping us with this at my time of need is so much appreciated. I will talk to my hubby later about this
    Okay. Good luck, whichever route you choose.


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    Check List

    Many people on the forum ask about the UKBA checklist. Visalogic dont use it as it is too general and everybodies case is different. . They just arrange the documentation in the way they see fit which parallels the way the UKBA arrange their list of requirements. They submit a covering letter stating who they are, their OISC registration number etc, which pretty much says things along the lines of that according to UK immigration law my client meets the requirements in paragraph 281 and here is the evidence followed by a list of the enclosed evidence and the evidence itself.


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    Nice reply lastlid. You said they were expensive but were they worth it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Nice reply lastlid. You said they were expensive but were they worth it?
    Quick reply....I dont know. Hard to be certain. Many people have succesfully applied and not used an Adviser. I would say, on balance, trying to be objective then yes.......sorry to come across as vague....

    I spent a lot of time on my wife's visa application but Visalogic took some of the workload off me aswell as advising. It has been pointed out that the applicant still has to gather the info which is true.


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    Ok thanks lastlid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Ok thanks lastlid.
    I did come across another Adviser company in the midlands ( the chap had a Brummie accent ) who had a similar approach but got you, the applicant, to fill out the application form with their guidance......another option.....can't remember his companies name. A slightly different method to Visalogic's.


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    Minimising of Risk

    Terpe uses the expression "minimising risk" when making ones application. I feel that by using a good Adviser one does just that. And that in itself ought to make the financial outlay worth it.


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    Very helpful lastlid.

    To put things into perspective, it's often said that on average a couple in the UK spend £20,000 on their wedding.


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    "About the OISC

    The Office of the Immigration Services Commissioner (OISC) is an independent, non-departmental public body set up under the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999.

    The Immigration and Asylum Act 1999 and the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 give the Immigration Services Commissioner various powers including:

    - refusing an adviser entry to the regulatory scheme

    - deregulating a regulated adviser

    - limiting or varying levels of work advisers may undertake

    - laying a disciplinary charge against a regulated adviser

    - applying for a Restraining Order or an injunction

    - prosecuting for illegally providing immigration advice and/or services

    - prosecuting for illegally advertising immigration advice and/or services

    - entering an adviser's premises

    - seizing an adviser's records.

    The OISC does not provide immigration advice or recommend or endorse a specific adviser".


    http://oisc.homeoffice.gov.uk/about_oisc/


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    hi, just want to share our experience about fiance visa application. My husband and I decided not to use an agency, for the reason that it cost around 24,000 pesos ( bit expensive for papers to be filled out) which honestly I could fill out myself. Also the information that they will need will also just come from you. So what we did was just follow the UKBA checklist. Husband sent his documents to me, printed out the Visa application form. Then we both filled out the application via Skype. Booked an appointment with VFS in manila. I made sure i provided enough evidence that our relationship was geniune, from emails to chats and pictures, cards. Also double checked all the documents needed and that there were no errors in our application form.

    2 weeks later i got my visa.. saved us the cost of 24k..

    but if you both are busy with work then i guess you guys should use an agency to help file your application. Or if you decide to do it on your own, this forum will be really helpfully.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurfette07 View Post
    hi, just want to share our experience about fiance visa application. My husband and I decided not to use an agency, for the reason that it cost around 24,000 pesos ( bit expensive for papers to be filled out) which honestly I could fill out myself. Also the information that they will need will also just come from you. So what we did was just follow the UKBA checklist. Husband sent his documents to me, printed out the Visa application form. Then we both filled out the application via Skype. Booked an appointment with VFS in manila. I made sure i provided enough evidence that our relationship was geniune, from emails to chats and pictures, cards. Also double checked all the documents needed and that there were no errors in our application form.

    2 weeks later i got my visa.. saved us the cost of 24k..

    but if you both are busy with work then i guess you guys should use an agency to help file your application. Or if you decide to do it on your own, this forum will be really helpfully.
    Hello Smurfette07! Nice to hear what u did and that was job well done In our case me and my husband our both busy and we are both love to worries lol so we decided to have an agency to less the worries and "minimizing risk" as Terpe used. Thanks for sharing smurfette07 .


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    most people on here manage to fill in the application form without any problems and successfully get their visa, you say you wouldnt want to be refused for a single mistake, but your willing to pay someone to fill in a form that dont really know you.

    unless you think their could be problems with your application i wouldnt use an agency. but then thats me , i dont like paying visa fees or agency fees.
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    most people on here manage to fill in the application form without any problems and successfully get their visa, you say you wouldnt want to be refused for a single mistake, but your willing to pay someone to fill in a form that dont really know you.

    unless you think their could be problems with your application i wouldnt use an agency. but then thats me , i dont like paying visa fees or agency fees.


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    very helpful and informative ,,,, nice one lastlid


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    very helpful and informative ,,,, nice one lastlid
    Okay. Thanks. I tried to keep it as objective as possible.


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    Very helpful Lastlid. Makes me wish I had this information before my application instead of signing a contract for 80000 php with a clown who was recommended to us in the Philippines.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    Very helpful Lastlid. Makes me wish I had this information before my application instead of signing a contract for 80000 php with a clown who was recommended to us in the Philippines.
    Yes. It's a difficult call for anyone. I do the reverse as I tend to think if only I had joined the forum earlier then I will have saved a few bob.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Yes. It's a difficult call for anyone. I do the reverse as I tend to think if only I had joined the forum earlier then I will have saved a few bob.

    My mistake in hindsight was pointed out by Graham I think, who commented Why did I pay all that money to a Filipino Attorney when we are dealing with UK immigration Law.
    But it is amazing some of the little nuggets you pick up here. Only today I learnt about it possibly being easier if I had an Irish Passport. I think we've got our own Visalogic team right here and it's totally free.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    My mistake in hindsight was pointed out by Graham I think, who commented Why did I pay all that money to a Filipino Attorney when we are dealing with UK immigration Law.
    But it is amazing some of the little nuggets you pick up here. Only today I learnt about it possibly being easier if I had an Irish Passport. I think we've got our own Visalogic team right here and it's totally free.
    Exactly. I "flipped a coin" and went with Visalogic and a week or so later I discovered the forum. There's obviously some luck involved along the way.

    Anyway, I hope your refusal is overturned. Rooting for ya!


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    A very interesting and informative thread.


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    Well begorahh bejabers.... and I'm going to apply to be Irish !

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Well begorahh bejabers.... and I'm going to apply to be Irish !

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    well its the way you tell em ,,,,,, its the luck of the irish


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Well begorahh bejabers.... and I'm going to apply to be Irish !

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    Both you and Marco.....with lucky shamrock...


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    Funnily enough my earliest memory of ANYTHING was when I was on holiday, staying with relations in Southern Ireland...before I was 3 years old.

    My 'half' birthday falls on St.Patrick's day too.

    Got to be some sort of Karma there.


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