Hurricane Katrina

[Admin]

Nice to see the Yanks aren't perfect

Remember...It's the land of the free......unless your black, poor, or live in the South!!! :mellow:

Don't worry though, I'm sure the President has said a prayer, so for those who have lost family, it's Gods will, and everything will be just fine!

Just wondering why they haven't got lines of milk tankers full of water? Haven't seen one!

[walesrob]

Originally posted by admin@Sep 3 2005, 06:02 PM
Nice to see the Yanks aren't perfect

Remember...It's the land of the free......unless your black, poor, or live in the South!!! :mellow:

Don't worry though, I'm sure the President has said a prayer, so for those who have lost family, it's Gods will, and everything will be just fine!

Just wondering why they haven't got lines of milk tankers full of water? Haven't seen one!

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Don't you mean Katrina?!

It is shocking how these poor people were simply ignored for the last few days, just left to fend for themselves in a disaster zone, like something out of 3rd world country. The world looks on in disbelief at how the worlds richest country treats it very own people when disaster strikes. I hope Bush gets some serious flak about this.

What surprised me was that the local airport is/always was operating normally (Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport), yet all flights had been suspended except for the military. Surely its better to get everyone out using passenger jets from various airlines - I understand this is what happening NOW, but why couldn't they have done this days ago?

[Admin]

Same woman, just trying to hide her identity :lol:

They'll have 5 years of enquiries now...by the time they are concluded....new goverment, everyone has forgotten!!

[Joey]

What did I miss? Katrina is prejutice against poor blacks in Louisiana? What has the media forgotten to tell everybody this time? My information shows the National Guard was activated quickly, and was making rescues around the clock. The military has been flying supplies in and people out. Somebody missed it. There is a big thing going on in the USA where the media does not tell good news, so people think nothing good is happening. Some celebrity who hasn't heard what is going on assumes that nothing is going on, so he says on a big news station that nothing is being done. A whole lot is being done, and has been done. Good news just doesn't sell, so the media doesn't push it.

[peterdavid]

Originally posted by Joey@Sep 6 2005, 11:32 AM
What did I miss? Katrina is prejutice against poor blacks in Louisiana? What has the media forgotten to tell everybody this time? My information shows the National Guard was activated quickly, and was making rescues around the clock. The military has been flying supplies in and people out. Somebody missed it. There is a big thing going on in the USA where the media does not tell good news, so people think nothing good is happening. Some celebrity who hasn't heard what is going on assumes that nothing is going on, so he says on a big news station that nothing is being done. A whole lot is being done, and has been done. Good news just doesn't sell, so the media doesn't push it.

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I don't know - Boscastle's response was pretty good news and that sold pretty well. The USA response did seem rather lethargic, notwithstanding the sheer enormity of the disaster.

If it were Manhattan that got swamped, instead of New Orleans (which is equally as likely, given its position) I'm sure the federal resources would have been out there immediately, certainly a lot faster than it got to New Orleans, and Bush wouldn't have so dispassionately told the starving millions to "be patient" two days after the disaster had happened.

I'm always wary of people playing the race card (as in, "the response was slow because it's full of poor black people"), and I don't necessarily think there was anything deliberately racist in how the response was handled, but I have a sneaking suspicion it would have been a lot better handled had it been New York. Or Washington. Or somewhere that "mattered", strategically, to the government.

The US government's tactless and incompetent response to major disasters which don't directly affect it is neither surprising nor unprecedented - their first response after the London bombings was to ban their own soldiers from entering London "for their own safety" - this after spending years preaching how they would never kowtow to terrorists or let them affect their way of life.....

[Pauldo]

Originally posted by peterdavid@Sep 6 2005, 07:39 PM

I'm always wary of people playing the race card (as in, "the response was slow because it's full of poor black people"), and I don't necessarily think there was anything deliberately racist in how the response was handled, but I have a sneaking suspicion it would have been a lot better handled had it been New York. Or Washington. Or somewhere that "mattered", strategically, to the government.

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Strange, but no matter how hard everybody tries to impress us that race has nothing to do with the way the rescue operation was carried out, EVERY news reporter, spokesman or government bullsh1tter has to include the phrase "...in the, Predominantly Black, city of New Orleans....." somewhere in their litany of events.

I think it is fairly sound to say that the whole world sees some sort of racial injustice in the New Orleans disaster.

[Joey]

Originally posted by Pauldo@Sep 7 2005, 06:01 AM
Strange, but no matter how hard everybody tries to impress us that race has nothing to do with the way the rescue operation was carried out, EVERY news reporter, spokesman or government bullsh1tter has to include the phrase "...in the, Predominantly Black, city of New Orleans....." somewhere in their litany of events.

I think it is fairly sound to say that the whole world sees some sort of racial injustice in the New Orleans disaster.

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The news would not be as exciting if they didn't make sure to point out that the hurricane was going after blacks or something. Every time you hear about a U.S. military death in Iraq, they say " ... thousand and ... deaths since the end of ... " I can't remember exactly what they say, but they want to go on about how many people have died since Saddam's government was gone. Nevermind that in other wars, that many people died in an hour or less.

The whole world? You are assuming that those spokesholes actually represent the rest of us. I suppose that if it was New York or DC (District of Cracksmokers), reaction may have been different. Was that an understatement? I don't think it is a race thing. I think it is a money thing. Like that girl who disappeared in Bermuda. She was everywhere in the news. Her family was rich, of course. But, when Christina Williams disappeared, they had one episode on America's Most Wanted, but then you didn't hear much more about her. Do a Google search. Her mom was my first daughter's godmother...

What I'm trying to say is, the news media is going to say what gets the story watched. They don't care if it is truth. They just care that everybody talks about it. If they said, "Katrina caused lots of trouble, but the Gov't is responding well and everybody is going to be fine," then nobody would care.

[Admin]

No mention of Latin Americans so I take they all drowned!!! :blink:

[Admin]

and everybody DID care about the story.

'Everybody' includes me, and I certainly don't feel sorry for anyone who decides to live on flood planes, in valleys cut out by water (slight proof that water may come again!&#33, on volcanoes, on fault lines, etc, their choice, and if they don't know the risks, then ignorance is no defence.


When I chose where to live, I took account of natural phenomena.

[peterdavid]

Originally posted by admin@Sep 8 2005, 09:48 AM
'Everybody' includes me, and I certainly don't feel sorry for anyone who decides to live on flood planes, in valleys cut out by water (slight proof that water may come again!&#33, on volcanoes, on fault lines, etc, their choice, and if they don't know the risks, then ignorance is no defence.
When I chose where to live, I took account of natural phenomena.

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Ok, 'everybody except Keith' then.

Don't disagree with you, but wasn't Boscastle one of those areas where flooding had never happened before and noone foresaw it, unlike N Orleans? I too would make sure I didn't live in a flood plain and anyone who chooses to live there is a bit of a muppet (bit like an Israeli deliberately choosing to go and live in a settlement in gaza - they get everything they deserve) - but I didn't think Boscastle was actually a place like that...?

[Admin]

If you look at the geology map of Boscastle, it's a deep gully cut out by water over millions of years, so floods happen often in the timescale of the planet, but not human life.

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