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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    Pass me the sick bucket someone!
    Sorry you dont agree, but Queen Elizabeth represents a long forgotten era . A time where for example when it was virtuos NOT to air dirty washing in public................a time when privacy and modesty were held in high regard.................NOW we live in a society of tittle tattle gossip and hearsay that are portrayed as news...............and where some feel a need to let everyone know their opinions on subjects ranging from the ridiculous to the sublime by being twits., sorry tweeting.

    She took solemn vows as Queen and has done her best .........ask yourself this, how would you or I react being thrust into a position because of the actions of someone else???

    Edward the V111 abdicated, leaving his Brother and our now Queens father as King...........the poor guy cldnt even spk properly, upon his death the throne went to Elizabeth, like her father she has taken on the responsibility with dignity........not all is perfect we know that..........but though it all she has come through with flying colours.

    Im proud of her , im proud to be English , lets cheer her on , the monarchy is one of the few things left that MOST countries admire of this ONCE great nation


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    Quote Originally Posted by laurel View Post
    Sorry you dont agree, but Queen Elizabeth represents a long forgotten era . A time where for example when it was virtuos NOT to air dirty washing in public................a time when privacy and modesty were held in high regard.................NOW we live in a society of tittle tattle gossip and hearsay that are portrayed as news...............and where some feel a need to let everyone know their opinions on subjects ranging from the ridiculous to the sublime by being twits., sorry tweeting.

    She took solemn vows as Queen and has done her best .........ask yourself this, how would you or I react being thrust into a position because of the actions of someone else???

    Edward the V111 abdicated, leaving his Brother and our now Queens father as King...........the poor guy cldnt even spk properly, upon his death the throne went to Elizabeth, like her father she has taken on the responsibility with dignity........not all is perfect we know that..........but though it all she has come through with flying colours.

    Im proud of her , im proud to be English , lets cheer her on , the monarchy is one of the few things left that MOST countries admire of this ONCE great nation

    Nice one. I am not a royalist as such but I do appreciate our heritage. Not a lot of countries in the world have that. Like you say, the monarchy is representative of our history.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laurel View Post
    Sorry you dont agree, but Queen Elizabeth represents a long forgotten era . A time where for example when it was virtuos NOT to air dirty washing in public................a time when privacy and modesty were held in high regard.................NOW we live in a society of tittle tattle gossip and hearsay that are portrayed as news...............and where some feel a need to let everyone know their opinions on subjects ranging from the ridiculous to the sublime by being twits., sorry tweeting.

    She took solemn vows as Queen and has done her best .........ask yourself this, how would you or I react being thrust into a position because of the actions of someone else???

    Edward the V111 abdicated, leaving his Brother and our now Queens father as King...........the poor guy cldnt even spk properly, upon his death the throne went to Elizabeth, like her father she has taken on the responsibility with dignity........not all is perfect we know that..........but though it all she has come through with flying colours.

    Im proud of her , im proud to be English , lets cheer her on , the monarchy is one of the few things left that MOST countries admire of this ONCE great nation
    I really don't understand how you can be proud of someone you don't really know, someone who has never achieved anything, or faced adversity at any point in their life and overcome hurdles that the average Joe has faced.

    She may be dignified but so would a lot of people in her position but being born with a silver spoon in one's mouth is not an achievement and an individual such as this doesn't deserve the adulation and recognition.

    And to think that the majority of the planet admires her is just an oversee. Yes, there maybe plenty of tourists visiting Buckingham Palace armed with Nikon camera's but they're just a small percentage of the world's population.

    Countries such as Japan, China and India have progressed over the years, while good old Blighty has stalled at the lights still foolishly clinging to the idea that the country is still great because it has a Royal Family.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post

    Countries such as Japan, China and India have progressed over the years, while good old Blighty has stalled at the lights still foolishly clinging to the idea that the country is still great because it has a Royal Family.
    Sorry Jamie but that's a bit......ummm.......I'll be polite - it's wrong

    The country being held back has absolutely nothing to do with monarchs. India, China and Japan have made leaps forward because of other things. Firstly Japans leap forward came not long after defeat in war. There is also the national psyche and work ethos. They are "now there", just as Britain was "there" in King Edward VII's time (another monarch who actually stopped wars and managed to hold European peace until his end).
    Japan had a monarch during their time of growth - he was frankly lucky not to have been hung mind.

    China, there is also the national psyche. It is noted how wherever Chinese go, they work hard and build businesses. Add to that a very strict controlling government, and cheap labour.....

    India.....cheap labour, huge labour force, good education if you can afford it, countries outsourcing there, ability to undercut......

    You just can't compare these countries to the UK. All of them wanting to work hard and improve - and in the UK at the same time, back in the 70's we had Red Robbo calling out on strike because they'd run out of bogroll or something. It's a good thing, but we have laws against cheap labour here. Combination of strikes, production costs and quality meaning British industry was uncompetitive, then a certain someone selling off the state industries in the 80's

    I tend to be optimistic, but the way this country is going economically, along with a proportion of the population who think the world owes them a living and wouldn't know work if it kicked them up their trackie-bottomed backside, you have to wonder where the country is going.

    This might sound barking, but I have read this quite recently (I'll try find where, I tend to read many economic sites) - on this forum, being one full of people with Pinoy partners, we are aware of their lazy government and dire economic circumstances making a huge percentage of their young population go abroad for work and working in menial places well below their education.
    Well I read a forecast suggesting in 30 maybe years, this is what will be happening in the UK. Our young people going off to South America, hopefully though not the middle east still, and working as maids for them!

    Makes you think


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iani View Post
    The country being held back has absolutely nothing to do with monarchs.
    I just think this country puts too much emphasis on the monarchy and things like the Olympics and ignores more important issues in a country that's going to the dogs. It's like it's papering over the cracks to save face.


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