Originally Posted by Iani
Pasty tax indeednow that nearly could have led to a revolution
Pasty tax indeed
'Justify' Give them a chance to explain and justify if that's what they're actually going to do.
All we got at the moment is hearsay from that Liberal rag who would, given the power, legalise cocaine and make homosexuality compulsory.
I'd be up for thatAll we got at the moment is hearsay from that Liberal rag who would, given the power, legalise cocaine and make homosexuality compulsory.
to tell the truth , it wont effect me, it will just make my mind up quicky to leave this .... hole of a country sooner then later
Has everyone signed this petition?
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/32167
A few questions if anyone can answer them for me please?
How many signatures does it need to have it discussed in parliament?
Why didn't Denmark appeal against the decision for a Min Maintenance requirement?
How long from the point of the age restriction for 21 being announced to it being brought back to 18 was it?
As stated earlier today by moderator Joe, these proposals will not be going through parliament.
Denmark didn't appeal because, im guessing here, there was no opposition to the min maintenance requirement.
SO there would be no point in signing the petition then?As stated earlier today by moderator Joe, these proposals will not be going through parliament.
No harm though....its not costing you anything
Does anyone know how long the rule was in force for which banned anyone under 21 from applying for a spouse visa before it was over turned? I have had some say 3 months and some say 3 years?
's me ... Category 3 - consisting (in my case) of an Age-Related weekly State Retirement Pension, topped-up by receipt of a modest Occupational Pension, payable monthly. And I consider myself fortunate! Yet I'd be classed as being "in the red" for starters! At least as far as the proposed new Income Levels are concerned. Yet my combined income is more than adequate for my wife and I to live comfortably.
QUITE!
So they would deport your wife when it comes to apply for ILR?
27th Nov 2008 it was raised to 21,
28th Nov 2011 it was lowered to 18 again.
And as ive already said at least 5 times until im now blue in the faceNext we will be saying that a tax allowance is a benefit.that the powers that be deem child tax credits (not to be confused with tax relief) as public purse.
Hence, on arrival on our shores with a sack load kids, you can claim child benefits immediately for each and every one of them but, not child tax credits.
now this guy knows something we dont, or he's got his figures wrong..
lets hope he's right
Government to launch new crackdown on foreign prisoners
In moves set to spark a showdown with judges, Mrs May will announce plans to end the abuse of human rights laws that have allowed offenders to use “family rights” laws to escape deportation.
She will ask Parliament to tell the courts that the right to a family life is not absolute. Details of the Home Secretary’s tough new stance was first revealed by The Sunday Telegraph earlier this year.
The right to a family life is enshrined in the European Convention on Human Rights. Last year nearly 200 foreign criminals successfully used this right to delay or prevent deportation.
Mrs May is also set to introduce a new “financial independence” rule next month that will oblige anyone wanting to bring a spouse from overseas to the UK to have a minimum salary of £18,600. This threshold rises if the couple have offspring, with someone applying to bring three children into the UK obliged to have an annual income of £27,200.
Although tomorrow’s announcement will be popular with her party and a large proportion of the general public, it is like to unsettle Liberal Democrats and face opposition from lawyers and judges.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...prisoners.html
Thanks, so thats how long it could take to change the law on the maintenance requirement if it was challenged then too :(27th Nov 2008 it was raised to 21,
28th Nov 2011 it was lowered to 18 again.
The move comes as the Government is preparing to impose a new "financial independence" rule intended to curb the spouses, children and other dependants of migrants coming into the country and becoming a burden of the taxpayer.
Immigration Minister Damian Green said: "We will shortly be announcing a major overhaul of the existing family migration rules, to reduce burdens on the taxpayer, promote integration and tackle abuse. The reforms will protect the British public from foreign criminals who try to abuse human rights laws to avoid deportation. We plan to make it clear when the rights of the law abiding majority will outweigh a foreign criminal's right to family and private life."
Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...#ixzz1xLPahWWs
its more than hear say, looks like on Monday we will know
since when have British kids or a British partner been a migrant in the UK ??you would have thought that is true seeing it doesn't effect Non British Europeans living in the UK
how about this will stop up to 66% British citizens bringing their Non European partner to the Uk
Lets just hope that these will only apply to new applications from out of country, not in country applications such as FLR and ILR.
i dont think it effected many people, a couple of people on here, it was aimed at stopping arranged marriages.
i think the numbers effected by a minimum income will be a lot larger, Mac reports suggest upto 60% could be effected a much larger figure than those effected by the minimum age.
Nope... she already HAS ILR.
(Thank God!)
i wonder when this new propose rule would be implemented...hope not just yet as i am going to post my ILR on friday. Income wise we're not affected by this but 5 years on FLR is not so good
i wonder when this new propose rule would be implemented...hope not just yet as i am going to post my ILR on friday. Income wise we're not affected by this but 5 years on FLR is not so good
Goodluck with your ILR.
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Goodluck with your ILR.
thanks sir arthur...such a great relief to know
Not only that but these were people who were not already in the country! RIght?
What about couples who applied for a fiance visa at the age of 18, then the age limit changed to 21 after they applied for the Fiance Visa and then when they applied for FLR, and they were still 18 were they then deported? As that would be similar to a couple who apply for a Fiance visa who meet the current regulations but then do not meet them when they apply for the FLR right?
Hmm but for me who has a Fiance on a Fiance Visa and will be applying for her FLR in September???any new rules of this sort are UNLIKELY to affect people like yourself - who've been living here for the past 2 years.
Excuse me, now I dont wish to come over as a hair splitting but, this latest newspaper report differs quite alot from your initial thread heading postThe move comes as the Government is preparing to impose a new "financial independence" rule intended to curb the spouses, children and other dependants of migrants coming into the country and becoming a burden of the taxpayer.
Immigration Minister Damian Green said: "We will shortly be announcing a major overhaul of the existing family migration rules, to reduce burdens on the taxpayer, promote integration and tackle abuse. The reforms will protect the British public from foreign criminals who try to abuse human rights laws to avoid deportation. We plan to make it clear when the rights of the law abiding majority will outweigh a foreign criminal's right to family and private life."
Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...#ixzz1xLPahWWs
its more than hear say, looks like on Monday we will know
since when have British kids or a British partner been a migrant in the UK ??
how about this will stop up to 66% British citizens bringing their Non European partner to the Uk
I'll stick with my' hear say' opinion until we hear from the horse's mouth.
no it doesn't they have quoted the lowest figures by MAC, and everyone else is using the higher figures,Excuse me, now I dont wish to come over as a hair splitting but, this latest newspaper report differs quite alot from your initial thread heading post
I'll stick with my' hear say' opinion until we hear from the horse's mouth.
what you mean hear say, that the planned minimum income was just hear say, easy to sit on the fence, sure we will know soon enough thou
http://www.freemovement.org.uk/2011/...-on-age-alone/
no i dont think anyone would be deported, as they had 'entry clearance' to come into the UK when they got their fiancee visa, i dont think there was anything on the FLR(M) stating you had to be over 21.
It's going seem a long and anxious wait.. 14th June?sure we will know soon enough thou
The income threshold is bad enough but the other voiced (yes supposed) requirements really combine to severely shift the goal posts.
The irony is I agree that your partner should visit the UK first and it was a personal wish of mine that my fiancee does just that.. so I would be satisfied in my own mind that the change in culture, lifestyle etc would be ok and not present any problems when wwe are married. This sensible precaution however wasn't allowed with the visit visa being refused. Just consider, if the 2 previous visit ruling is realised and the strictness on issuing visit visas continues.. then it will be impossible for your partner to ever settle in the Uk.
your right DeltaRomeo, many visit visa's are refused because of the ECO doesn't believe this or that, and as she is not a family member you have limited rights to appeal, also if you've been refused twice then there is a good chance the 3rd will be refused, how can you convince someone that you will return before your visa expires, its impossible, and at the discretion of the ECO, they always have an excuse to refuse you no matter what evidence you send.
this is more like what the headline should be,
New immigration clampdown demands £20,000 salary for Brits to marry a foreigner
British citizens who marry foreigners will have to earn at least £20,000 a year if they want to set up their family home in the UK under a new immigration clampdown.
The planned changes mean lower-paid Britons would be forced to emigrate if they wanted to live with a loved one from overseas.
And if the foreign-born spouse had children, their British partner would have to earn £30,000 or more, depending on how many children they had.
They will also have to pass a strict new 'combined attachment test' to prove they share a genuine loyalty to Britain, not another country, and they will remain on probation for five years instead of the current two.
The proposals, to be announced by Home Secretary Theresa May, are expected to cut immigration, currently standing at 250,000 a year, by 25,000.
They are designed primarily to combat claims that some foreigners are marrying Britons to take advantage of the UK's generous welfare system.
The new clampdown will not apply to partners from within the European Union, as they will continue to have the right to settle here.
"There is little we can do to stop them claiming benefits but we can implement better controls on people who come here to marry in the first place."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1xMjd4L7S
as a British citizen you dont have the same rights as Europeans living in your country, they can still bring their wife and kids here without a problem
little you can do to stop them claiming benefits ?
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