Stark choice under new immigration rules: exile or family breakup

[joebloggs]

The move comes as the Government is preparing to impose a new "financial independence" rule intended to curb the spouses, children and other dependants of migrants coming into the country and becoming a burden of the taxpayer.

Immigration Minister Damian Green said: "We will shortly be announcing a major overhaul of the existing family migration rules, to reduce burdens on the taxpayer, promote integration and tackle abuse. The reforms will protect the British public from foreign criminals who try to abuse human rights laws to avoid deportation. We plan to make it clear when the rights of the law abiding majority will outweigh a foreign criminal's right to family and private life."

Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...#ixzz1xLPahWWs

its more than hear say, looks like on Monday we will know
since when have British kids or a British partner been a migrant in the UK ?? you would have thought that is true seeing it doesn't effect Non British Europeans living in the UK

how about this will stop up to 66% British citizens bringing their Non European partner to the Uk

[gWaPito]

The move comes as the Government is preparing to impose a new "financial independence" rule intended to curb the spouses, children and other dependants of migrants coming into the country and becoming a burden of the taxpayer.

Immigration Minister Damian Green said: "We will shortly be announcing a major overhaul of the existing family migration rules, to reduce burdens on the taxpayer, promote integration and tackle abuse. The reforms will protect the British public from foreign criminals who try to abuse human rights laws to avoid deportation. We plan to make it clear when the rights of the law abiding majority will outweigh a foreign criminal's right to family and private life."

Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...#ixzz1xLPahWWs

its more than hear say, looks like on Monday we will know
since when have British kids or a British partner been a migrant in the UK ?? you would have thought that is true seeing it doesn't effect Non British Europeans living in the UK

how about this will stop up to 66% British citizens bringing their Non European partner to the Uk

Excuse me, now I dont wish to come over as a hair splitting but, this latest newspaper report differs quite alot from your initial thread heading post

I'll stick with my' hear say' opinion until we hear from the horse's mouth.

[joebloggs]

Excuse me, now I dont wish to come over as a hair splitting but, this latest newspaper report differs quite alot from your initial thread heading post

I'll stick with my' hear say' opinion until we hear from the horse's mouth.

no it doesn't they have quoted the lowest figures by MAC, and everyone else is using the higher figures,
what you mean hear say, that the planned minimum income was just hear say, easy to sit on the fence, sure we will know soon enough thou

[DeltaRomeo]

sure we will know soon enough thou

It's going seem a long and anxious wait.. 14th June?
The income threshold is bad enough but the other voiced (yes supposed) requirements really combine to severely shift the goal posts.
The irony is I agree that your partner should visit the UK first and it was a personal wish of mine that my fiancee does just that.. so I would be satisfied in my own mind that the change in culture, lifestyle etc would be ok and not present any problems when wwe are married. This sensible precaution however wasn't allowed with the visit visa being refused. Just consider, if the 2 previous visit ruling is realised and the strictness on issuing visit visas continues.. then it will be impossible for your partner to ever settle in the Uk.

[gWaPito]

It's going seem a long and anxious wait.. 14th June?
The income threshold is bad enough but the other voiced (yes supposed) requirements really combine to severely shift the goal posts.
The irony is I agree that your partner should visit the UK first and it was a personal wish of mine that my fiancee does just that.. so I would be satisfied in my own mind that the change in culture, lifestyle etc would be ok and not present any problems when wwe are married. This sensible precaution however wasn't allowed with the visit visa being refused. Just consider, if the 2 previous visit ruling is realised and the strictness on issuing visit visas continues.. then it will be impossible for your partner to ever settle in the Uk.

Why dont you take the fiancee visa route, seeing how she's your fiancee.

Having done that and got your good lady here, the possible problems of cultural differences, awful weather (my wife now understands why the British go mad for the sun on holiday. Mad dogs and Englishmen) and being without her established friends and family may not manifest itself many months or years down the line.

The first fews months of something new are always the honeymoon period.

So making it a 5 year wait for the ILR instead of the present 2 year wait isn't such a terrible idea.

[yellowcloud]

In terms of the human rights Law that TM wants to change well May wants judges always to answer ‘yes’ to question (v) in every case, but in law they cannot. Question (v) is

If so, is such interference proportionate to the legitimate public end sought to be achieved?

Our judges remain independent and must carry out an independent assessment. The only ways to achieve what May wants are:

1. Modify the Human Rights Act

2. Withdraw from the Council of Europe

3. Remove access to the courts, or

4. Do away with an independent judiciary.

From the language she uses, it is disturbing to think a major politician, the Home Secretary no less, is actually advocating the last of these options. Unfortunately, there is a precedent for legislating to tell judges what to think.

Denying more spousal visas for residents/citizens as proposed is not necessary, and in many cases, not proportionate.

What I dont understand is this Unfortunately, there is a precedent for legislating to tell judges what to think.