Today - BBC1 Andrew Marr Show with Theresa May - Immigration
This is not another thread on immigration.
Just a heads up on a TV programme.
I didn't want it to get lost within any other threads that's all.
Theresa May will be appearing on The Andrew Marr show to talk about immigration.
BBC1 9:00
Might be interesting!
Watching it now. £18600 threshold and deference to / use of the other part of article 8 i.e. article 8b.....
plus new more comprehensive English Language Test and Life in UKOriginally Posted by lastlid
yes maybe the gov has gone for the lower figures because they know the problems they would face and because of the leaked letter and headlines in the press, gov can not face another U turn. still the problems do not go away, there will be court cases/judicial reviews on this.
whatme off is they keep using the word immigrant partner or Non EU partner, yet many of these are wife's or husbands of British citizens.
whats new thou, they already do this, push the pass mark up, i can see court cases on this too if they go too far.
She hasn't said when it will come in. Said the Britishness test will be next year, but not the language test or income level. Next week or next year?
Nooo !
Don't want to risk putting my foot through my nice TV.
i think in the telegraph it mentions July, which is possible,
the test take time to organize and test/english language providers too time to prepare of it.
Yes. Seems like the Life in the UK test may soon apply to visa applicants.
No mention of the so called Attachment Test.
The easy solution is just to raise the level expected, up from A1 to a higher level. So no need for the test centres to make alterations in this case.
not a word about EU citizens in the UK bringing their Eu and Non Eu families to the UK and claiming benefits from the tax payer
and why didn't he ask her about this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-18379925
true, but push the pass mark up, more people will fail, more retakes, more people needing to go on courses, but i was thinking about the Britishness test, what ever that is, must be similar to the life in UK test,
Well thats it. Straight from the horse's mouth eh? Bad news for some but a sigh of relief for many.
when will these new rules come in to force
no wonder some scots want independence, being ruled by these muppets!
i still think the gov will have problems with the HRC and article 8, also no mention of people who dont work, does this apply to them to ? , retired or can not work because of some disability. also if you have kids - the best interest of the child could be a problem for the gov, complainants to MP from people who are refused a visa because of this, problems extending FLR to 5yrs, etc etc..
to be honest Robert i don't think anyone cares who's got a filipino wife when these rules come in if they come in at all everytime the government has been taken to court they lose but what rags me off is in the last 8 months or so the Visa fee has risen something like £300 in the last 8 months just paid ours wish us luck
From my own viewpoint, it is better than it could have been. But it still ought to be thought through a little more. And of course from our own perspective the ILR bit may well affect me and Mrs Lastlid. I guess more will come out soon. I am still intrigued about the attachment test, though having thought about it my feeling is that whatever they realistically throw at us ( and the IOM generally shadows UK law on this stuff) we will be able to stand up to.
I sympathise with Robert86 and Andy222. People who are performing an essential public service and who may well get a kick in the nuts from Mrs May
(Apologies Andy if I have your figures wrong)
maybe people will feel relieved in away because it could have been worse, it could have been £25.6k and not £18.6, like i said maybe she changed her mind, trying to justify £25.6k when 2/3rds dont earn that is unfair. but still its more restrictions on British people bringing a partner to the UK, while the European yeah yeah you know the story
Yes. And it paves the way for them to step it up a notch at a later date.......maybe people will feel relieved in away because it could have been worse, it could have been £25.6k and not £18.6, like i said maybe she changed her mind, trying to justify £25.6k when 2/3rds dont earn that is unfair. but still its more restrictions on British people bringing a partner to the UK
the biggest problem is the brittish public themselves, the average joe thinks everyone from outside england are foreign, so all those europeans will not be allowed here if they dont earn that much, mark my words on that,the problem is europe, what it cost us to bring our partners here and then they contribute into the system, england cannot lose, do the means test to anyone coming here, from any country and watch the count drop , the more to read into this the more it makes you angry, we are being taken over by europe not by the yellow man, just my thoughts dont mean to offend
Based on the very short interview and on what Theresa May reavealed there is certainly a lot more to come.maybe people will feel relieved in away because it could have been worse, it could have been £25.6k and not £18.6, like i said maybe she changed her mind, trying to justify £25.6k when 2/3rds dont earn that is unfair. but still its more restrictions on British people bringing a partner to the UK
Reading between the lines there were strong hints that additional restrictions would be placed on "migrants" bringing their family members into UK.
Also that many of the new changes would be applicable to EEA migrants.
Plenty to think about and plenty issues not mentioned.
Anyone who is really interested should read the MAC report as it contains all the stuff that is yet to come. The government hardly ever ignores what MAC suggest.
At least for now we know the Income level and that it was based on the lower limit of a range suggested by MAC.
Whether that logic could be extrapolated to other family/settle issues remains to be seen, but it gives hope.
Of course there will be court case etc on many aspects of the new immigration rules just as there has always been.
Don't forget that the current financial requirements were actually finalised after a number of court cases and judgements made by tribunal.
That's the nature of such rules/laws/policy and why caselaw plays such an important role. Especially in appeals.
Watch this space eh.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ow_10_06_2012/
37 minutes in to the program. Theresa May interview.
yes it makes sense to use the lower limit to start with and then to increase the limit each April along with the yearly increase in visa fee's
Peter i dont think they can do anything to restrict Europeans from working or bringing their family to the UK, all that's covered by EU law as you know, not the British immigration system. only thing each country controls is it laws on citizenship.
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ok lads have i got this right, if you are a imigrant to this country and you want to bring your partner here or kids extenderd family and so on, this is what this is all about , so what if you are brittish, born here go back generations surely you are not a imirgrant, nothing is mentioned about a brittish national bringing his wife here, we have had to show we can support of future partners if they come here and have to have so much in the bank and never be overdrawn so am i reading and understanding this new law right,
Yes. I noticed that they have followed the MAC report all or most of the way.
A british person born and bred needs to earn 18600 per year or more to bring a non eu wife here Steve, without any kids coming in. More if there are kids coming in too.
its for anyone who wants to bring a Non EU partner (wife or husband) to the UK, the Immigrant is the Non EU person, so if your British or on some other visa then this probably applies to you, the only people it doesn't apply to are Europeans living in the UK - they can bring their wife and family to the UK from any country it doesn't effect them, whether its in Europe or not, that's one thing that's unfair about it .
cant see where it says british person born and bred, says imigrant here wanting to bring there family, yes i may be seeing wrong, but also when we started filling in the forms to bring our partners, here we had to put in bank statements and to make sure we had enough money to support our new family too, thats why they are here because we passed all that they requied, sorry to sound silly but it does take some sinking in
if your partner is not from the EU, they they are classed as an Immigrant by the gov. i dont think i have ever heard anyone in the Gov mention EU immigrants, i think they call them EU workers
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