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    Hmm thats interesting, if we don't get the Fiance Visa maybe we can use the EEA Route and live in the Isle of Man? OR is the Isle of Man part of the UK?


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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowcloud View Post
    Hmm thats interesting, if we don't get the Fiance Visa maybe we can use the EEA Route and live in the Isle of Man? OR is the Isle of Man part of the UK?
    Not an easy one to answer, I am afraid. However, for the purposes of visa application it is part of the UK. But strictly speaking it isn't part of the UK, but part of the British Isles - slight difference. As far as I can make out, it isn't part of the EU but does have ties and agreements with it........

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man

    Notice the subtle difference in the passport cover.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowcloud View Post
    Hmm thats interesting, if we don't get the Fiance Visa maybe we can use the EEA Route and live in the Isle of Man? OR is the Isle of Man part of the UK?
    no i dont think so, IOM issues British passports , either go to Southern Ireland, south of France or Spain (the last 2 for the weather)

    interesting about Asylum seekers

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    What is the situation on the Isle of Man in respect of asylum claims?
    The Isle of Man’s legislation does not include provision for asylum claims or support for asylum seekers. The Isle of Man (and the Channel Islands) benefit from an arrangement with the United Kingdom Government whereby it will accept the return of asylum seekers in cases where the individual concerned, having arrived here via the UK, would have had opportunity to claim asylum in the UK. For anyone entering from any other port of entry, the Immigration Service, under present arrangements, works with the UK to achieve a satisfactory outcome


    http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/cso/immig...leofmanpub.pdf
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    no i dont think so, IOM issues British passports , either go to Southern Ireland, south of France or Spain (the last 2 for the weather)

    interesting about Asylum seekers

    Asylum
    What is the situation on the Isle of Man in respect of asylum claims?
    The Isle of Man’s legislation does not include provision for asylum claims or support for asylum seekers. The Isle of Man (and the Channel Islands) benefit from an arrangement with the United Kingdom Government whereby it will accept the return of asylum seekers in cases where the individual concerned, having arrived here via the UK, would have had opportunity to claim asylum in the UK. For anyone entering from any other port of entry, the Immigration Service, under present arrangements, works with the UK to achieve a satisfactory outcome


    http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/cso/immig...leofmanpub.pdf

    Also note the words European Union on the passport cover. Yet the IOM isnt part of the EU. No mention of UK.

    332px-Isle_of_Man_Passport.svg.jpg


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    Who are the overseas workers, where do they come from?
    The issue of National Insurance (NI) numbers gives some indication of all the nationalities working on the Isle of Man. During 2005/06 NI numbers were issued to people from Poland (271) India (155) South Africa (148) and the Philippines (76). No other country of origin had more than 50 NI numbers issued over that period.


    http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/cso/immig...leofmanpub.pdf
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    Who are the overseas workers, where do they come from?
    The issue of National Insurance (NI) numbers gives some indication of all the nationalities working on the Isle of Man. During 2005/06 NI numbers were issued to people from Poland (271) India (155) South Africa (148) and the Philippines (76). No other country of origin had more than 50 NI numbers issued over that period.


    http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/cso/immig...leofmanpub.pdf

    Interesting stats but they don't match the blend that I see on the streets in 2012. It is really hard to find anyone from the Indian subcontinent here. Struggle to find an Indian restaurant.

    I think that I have seen 1 person of West Indian origin. And hardly any more of African origin. If there are folk from South Africa then they are not indigenous African in origin.

    The blend of ethnicities here are nothing like most places in England. There are no hidden, or otherwise, enclaves or ghettos. And it takes very little effort to cover all of the island and I really don't see very many Indians, barely a handful or two. Some are indeed in the medical profession.

    I wouldn't disagree with the stats on the Poles. But they aren't non EU. In any case we aren't talking "Roman" here in the sense that Dedworth refers to. There aren't loads of rampant "Romas" begging on the streets or claiming benefit. The Poles are mainly in the hotel sector and dentistry etc.

    Also, they are old stats.

    Bottom line is that there aren't any immigration related problems here. Virtually none, unless you count those that come across on the ferry.


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