Originally Posted by grahamw48 Yes, I keep coming across a word which translates into English as 'shovel', but no idea why it would be in the conversation. (I think the word in Tagalog was 'paan' ?). Apologies the the OP for my off-topic Reminds me of a conversation I had with a Japanese customer where he kept referring to "coal shovels" Took ages to discover he meant Carbon Brushes in an electrical motor
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