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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    The government rules are so confusing. What exactly do they mean earn income of £18600?
    I have said before in my situation I work in a team that operates 24/7 so I am contracted to work unsociable hours. However the government can argue that my unsociable hours are not guaranteed. Obviously for working weekends I earn more money. On top of this I get mileage allowance. i.e every mile I travel in the community I get fuel allowance. Does this count towards my annual earnings? On top of this I get a monthly car maintenance allowance. (Does this count as part of my income)?. Because of my contract there is no way I can get part time work as I work variable shifts.
    Right Andy, and anyone else it might help - but don't go by my word, I'm not an expert and my vision is pretty clouded by fury on this.

    I've been reading and reading the guidance on the UKBA site, and the scenarios, and there are a few ways of meeting this - in fact this is about the only part they have been anything like "fair" - they could have said pure base income and nothing else, but they haven't.

    So -

    1. - The simplest one - earn £18,600 or more a year before deductions. Simple and it's on your P60.

    2. - Earn £18,600 in one tax year, can include overtime, can include a hundred jobs, as long as they add up to a pre tax income of £18,600 in that year - again, it will be on your P60, or you might need to just produce wage slips to add up to this.

    3. - Have a shedload of savings over £16,000 to make up the shortfall - anything over £16,000 can be counted as income apparently. Hmmm, weird.

    4. - You don't even have to have a year of income, if for the last 6 months your income would lead to a yearly income of £18,600, this will do - so yes, you could work overtime or get a part time job for those 6 months. Seriously, yes it's barmy as overtime isn't guaranteed, but they count it - so lets be thankful there hehe

    5. - Another way of having £18,600 a year - if for example you had a P60 showing £17,000, but then in one month you earned £1600 in overtime, well that would be enough - you have earned that amount - submit the relevant wage slips.

    As I said, this is what the scenarios state, it's not my interpretation, it's all there.

    On the other hand, you do have to have been earning that amount which will add up to £18,600 for the magic 6 months. Doesn't matter if you suddenly get a job paying a thousand pounds a week - you have to have been doing it for 6 months.

    Hope this maybe helps someone.

    Oh and I'm currently enquiring with my mp if benefits in kind can be counted as income. I'm not expecting a reply soon as she's notoriously slow to reply to things, but I even spoke to her a couple of days ago about it - we can see, but let's not get hopes up too much on that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iani View Post
    Right Andy, and anyone else it might help - but don't go by my word, I'm not an expert and my vision is pretty clouded by fury on this.

    I've been reading and reading the guidance on the UKBA site, and the scenarios, and there are a few ways of meeting this - in fact this is about the only part they have been anything like "fair" - they could have said pure base income and nothing else, but they haven't.

    So -

    1. - The simplest one - earn £18,600 or more a year before deductions. Simple and it's on your P60.

    2. - Earn £18,600 in one tax year, can include overtime, can include a hundred jobs, as long as they add up to a pre tax income of £18,600 in that year - again, it will be on your P60, or you might need to just produce wage slips to add up to this.

    3. - Have a shedload of savings over £16,000 to make up the shortfall - anything over £16,000 can be counted as income apparently. Hmmm, weird.

    4. - You don't even have to have a year of income, if for the last 6 months your income would lead to a yearly income of £18,600, this will do - so yes, you could work overtime or get a part time job for those 6 months.

    5. - Another way of having £18,600 a year - if for example you had a P60 showing £17,000, but then in one month you earned £1600 in overtime, well that would be enough - you have earned that amount - submit the relevant wage slips.

    As I said, this is what the scenarios state, it's not my interpretation, it's all there.

    On the other hand, you do have to have been earning that amount which will add up to £18,600 for the magic 6 months. Doesn't matter if you suddenly get a job paying a thousand pounds a week - you have to have been doing it for 6 months.

    Hope this maybe helps someone.

    Oh and I'm currently enquiring with my mp if benefits in kind can be counted as income. I'm not expecting a reply soon as she's notoriously slow to reply to things, but I even spoke to her a couple of days ago about it - we can see, but let's not get hopes up too much on that.


    And good luck with the benefits in kind query.


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    Hi all, ive been searching around for info on these new laws, and although my fiance is Japanese this forum seemed the best source of info and at the end of the day were all in the same boat.

    ive been travelling to Japan every 3 months for the past 2 and a half years, we planned on January 2013 being our last trip when we'd marry and after that she'd come to live in England with me.

    im earning (as of next months payrise) just short of 17k, with no mortgage or debts and very low rent as im still living with parents. My wage would be more than enough for me and my fiance to live comfortably on which is what is frustratingme the most.

    I guess my only options are get a 2nd job, save 16,000, or just wait and see what the future holds with court cases and stuff?

    also does anyone have a link regarding the 16,000 savings?

    Its nice to know were not alone in this situation. As im sure it has for a lot of members here, its turned our life and plans upside down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tokage View Post
    Hi all, ive been searching around for info on these new laws, and although my fiance is Japanese this forum seemed the best source of info and at the end of the day were all in the same boat.

    ive been travelling to Japan every 3 months for the past 2 and a half years, we planned on January 2013 being our last trip when we'd marry and after that she'd come to live in England with me.

    im earning (as of next months payrise) just short of 17k, with no mortgage or debts and very low rent as im still living with parents. My wage would be more than enough for me and my fiance to live comfortably on which is what is frustratingme the most.

    I guess my only options are get a 2nd job, save 16,000, or just wait and see what the future holds with court cases and stuff?

    also does anyone have a link regarding the 16,000 savings?

    Its nice to know were not alone in this situation. As im sure it has for a lot of members here, its turned our life and plans upside down.
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