Andy, where did you get "Ian" from?Originally Posted by andy222
Andy, where did you get "Ian" from?
I don't think that is going to win much sympathy with decision-makers though.
FAIRNESS and REASONABLENESS:
We live in a country that gathers massive amounts of information and statistics about its residents and immigrants...all stored on computers and easily accessed.
1. How many Filipinos have been convicted of criminal offences of any kind in this country, compared with OTHER Asians ?
2. What is the divorce rate for Filipino/UK marriages compared to that of the indigenous population ?
3. How many of these marriages have been found to be SHAM marriages compared to other ASIAN/mixed couples ?
4 As above, but found to be FORCED marriages ?
5. How many Filipinos are in employment and contributing to the public purse, as opposed to other Asians ?
6. How many Filipinos have asked for the services of an interpreter ?
7. How many Filipinos have had to be removed from this country compared to other nationalities ?
8. How many Fil/UK couples are claiming benefits compared to other Asian families ?
9. How many Fil/UK couples are accommodated in public housing compared to other Asian families ?
10. How many Filipinos require special provisions to be made for schooling and places of worship compared to other Asian communities ?
The UKBA's entry requirements for citizens of the Philippines are total bullshit, and in the case of Settlement Visas the criteria should include the likelihood of the applicant being able to integrate into and to contribute to our society and its traditional way of life.
There should be a POINTS-BASED system taking into account the various factors which may affect the above in either a positive or negative way.
If the govt and the UKBA are to be allowed to discriminate in the way they have chosen to, then let it be based on FACTS and reality.
Thats another thing I want to bring up the ECO in the philippines whoever it is is a disgrace.
Yes. The mistakes Andy. Cant organise a few beers in a brewery.
Sorry mate I thought that was your name.
No problem.Sorry mate I thought that was your name.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/si...s-feb-2012.pdf
4th page in. Unit cost for ILR posted : £255. Price charged : £991. Whats fair about that especially if it takes 3 months.
That's one hell of a markup.
... plus the recent much-debated surcharge imposed on applicants who [naturally] prefer not to wait that long!
Yes. Exactly. Given this info, its all a great ripoff. Particularly felt by those least able to pay.
Thats if they grant you visa in the first place. Look at what bigmarco has been through.
Thanks Graham. I will ask (if they dont kick me off first.).
Good point Arthur.
Good for you Andy.
As everyone has said, get your main points down on a piece of paper.
The system is discriminatory. If you were Polish and working here you could bring your filipino wife and child here and pay nothing for the Visa.
The £18600 is not right or fair as there regional pay differences in the country and living costs vary so much depending on where you live.
I would also mention how you work in the NHS and your daughter serves this country in Afghanistan and yet this same government is putting up barriers to your right to a family life.
The bottom line my friend is you are British and in love with a woman whom you have married and want to spend the rest of your life with and this government is preventing you from doing this.
As a listener I'm sure it would appeal more to me to hear the emotional side to this story. A husband and wife very much in love kept apart by ridiculous Government Policies.
Best of Luck matey
Yes, the story has many sides to it and the emotional side may be the best route or at least the opening gambit, especially if the time that Andy gets is limited.
I agree.
It's also an angle popular with the media...the people who REALLY control this country.
Precisely what I implied ALREADY in #28!'s continually been a SORE point with MANY here. How about OUR Human Rights??? After all ...
is EVERY BIT as much a part of the EU as ANY of the OTHER Member countries.
Thanks guys all your comments have been copied and pasted and printed out. Before I go on the show I want to make sure that this is not just a phone in. I want someone who will be there or on the phone to answer our questions. ie someone from the ukba and a government official. Having said that it might take some time to arrange. After all said and done they want me on the show so they should grant my requests. If not I will go to the papers and hopefully cause a right stink.
Here's wishing you the very best of luck with your radio interview, Andy. We're ALL behind you ... believe me.
Some of their programmes are recorded and available to listen to on the BBC WM website.Here's wishing you the very best of luck with your radio interview, Andy. We're ALL behind you ... believe me.
No pressure then?
If I were to be consulted on which of our members was most likely to "Win Friends and Influence People",
Don't feel pressured. I think everyone admires you for doing it.No pressure then?
Thanks Arthur as long as I get our points across thats all that matters.
Can anyone see this from the point of view of the 'bureaucrats'? Perhaps a guideline minimum wage is considered necessary to support a family, and not to be a burden on other taxpayers through tax credits and benefits? Yes okay, I'll get my coat...
This is the kind of question you are likely to get Andy....I would bet on it being the first question you will get.
... good! BEST you've HAD to date!
Yes, of course....but it's DISPOSABLE income that is important.
What about someone from say Poland, who is entitled to bring his Filipina wife here with no questions asked ?
Don't forget also that a Spouse is permitted to work as soon as she arrives anyway, so their figures and assumptions are bollox.
No need to shout man, like wow. Not sure about the bit about the Polish man and Pinay wife, depends on her current nationality status I suspect?
Get a job as soon as she arrives? My own dear wife took 15 years to get a job, why work when some sucker (husband) pays for everything?
It's called EMPHASIS ...on ONE word.
I think you were looking for an argument, but I'm not in the mood this minute.
Sunday morning and I've just got out of bed...might turn into:
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if you think you being a husband and a sucker thats your choice, i am a husband, and no sucker, but each to there own
If I were to be consulted on which of our members was most likely to "Win Friends and Influence People",
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