Immigration Video

[lastlid]

like i said i dont think its to do with immigration or asylum seekers, there are white British scroungers to , its just been used by extremist groups as an excuse.

Adopted by extremist groups, you mean? Fair point.

I agree with the message to a degree and of course am peaced off about any scroungers regardless of race, just like you guys. I can understand the anger but feel it should be channeled in the right direction and of course legally. The politicians should be dealing with these issues in the right way. The "collection" of videos are also a little inflammatory and potentially counter productive......

[Arthur Little]

The "collection" of videos are also a little inflammatory and potentially counter productive......

... maybe the whole point of circulating *videos like these is in order that - sooner or later (preferably the former !) *they'll [hopefully] fall into the hands of shortsighted politicians whose blinkered approach to immigration issues in the past has been responsible for creating the mess this tiny island of ours now finds itself and, in turn (again, hopefully - though I wouldn't want to try holding my breath!) spur 'em on to "stemming the flow" of the wrong kind of immigrant before it's too late for the 'tide' to recede.

[lastlid]

... maybe the whole point of circulating *videos like these is in order that - sooner or later (preferably the former!) *they'll [hopefully] fall into the hands of shortsighted politicians whose blinkered approach to immigration issues in the past has been responsible for creating the mess this tiny island of ours now finds itself and, in turn (again, hopefully - though I wouldn't want to try holding my breath!) spur 'em on to "stemming the flow" of the wrong kind of immigrant before it's too late for the 'tide' to recede.

Well, I kind of agree with that too. But I think they can also be racially devisive. I dont want to see "Rivers of Blood" come to fruition / or fuel added to the flames.

[Arthur Little]

But I think they can also be racially devisive.

NOT AT ALL! ... Mick has posted this collection of videos in the 'Humour Section' where he intended it to be - and WHERE it belongs! Sometimes we really have to laugh. Otherwise - given the state of the nation - we'd end up in tears!!

I dont want to see "Rivers of Blood"

Bring back Enoch! Oh ... and Alf Garnett!

[lastlid]

NOT AT ALL! ... Mick has posted this collection of videos in the 'Humour Section' where he intended it to be - and WHERE it belongs! Sometimes we really have to laugh. Otherwise - given the state of the nation - we'd end up in tears!!



Bring back Enoch! Oh ... and Alf Garnett!

Sir Alf Garnett....




"The character's name has become a standard description of anyone ranting at the world in general, and has even found its way into politics, Oswald Mosley dismissing Enoch Powell after his Rivers of Blood speech as "a Middle Class Alf Garnett", former Prime Minister Harold Wilson also criticising Powell for making Alf Garnett 'politically articulate' and conferring upon him 'a degree of political respectability' Denis Healey accusing Margaret Thatcher of possessing "the diplomacy of Alf Garnett"and more recently has been used in criticism of politicians such as Ken Livingstoneand John Reid. On 9 June 2010 during Prime Minister's questions David Cameron referred to Ed Balls as "the new Alf Garnett of British politics" following his comments on immigration."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alf_Garnett

Nice to see the 'Appy 'Ammers back where they belong. BTW

[Dedworth]

... Mick has posted this collection of videos in the 'Humour Section' where he intended it to be - and WHERE it belongs! Sometimes we really have to laugh. Otherwise - given the state of the nation - we'd end up in tears!!



Bring back Enoch! Oh ... and Alf Garnett!

Thanks for the timely reminder Arthur of where Mick posted this gem - under HUMOUR

[lastlid]

Thanks for the timely reminder Arthur of where Mick posted this gem - under HUMOUR

Yes. But some didn't find it funny. Now, take yer Alf Garnett......thats funny.

[lordna]

NOT AT ALL! ... Mick has posted this collection of videos in the 'Humour Section' where he intended it to be - and WHERE it belongs! Sometimes we really have to laugh. Otherwise - given the state of the nation - we'd end up in tears!! Bring back Enoch! Oh ... and Alf Garnett!

I think i am right in saying the Nazis started thier hate campaign against the Jews by first making people believe it was funny to poke fun at their mannerisms etc. what started as humour quickly escalated to a full blown hate campaign of segregation, starvation, persecution and deaths on a massive scale not since (thankfully) repeated.

There is nothing humorous or funny about racism.

Clearly this video and one like it are circulated by the BNP. If forum members find it funny and think politicians need to be aware of its content then maybe they would also like to vote BNP. Personally its the last thing i would want but we live in a democratic society so please go ahead.

For the record i welcome views questioning the sanity of open door immigration and our crazy system for asylum seekers...BUT there is a right way and wrong way to bring about change to this...and Racism isnt the answer however humorous forum members might find it.

[lastlid]

.....BUT there is a right way and wrong way to bring about change to this...and Racism isnt the answer however humorous forum members might find it.

I do agree with that.

[bigmarco]

For the record i welcome views questioning the sanity of open door immigration and our crazy system for asylum seekers...BUT there is a right way and wrong way to bring about change to this...and Racism isnt the answer however humorous forum members might find it.

Perhaps you can enlighten us on the right way because the 3 main parties have been in power in the last 10 years and none of them seems to have the balls to tackle the problem.
Yep the video was probably made by a racist but I viewed it and ddidn't find it funny, but take the same view as Dedworth,its a parody of whats going on in this country today.

[lastlid]

Perhaps you can enlighten us on the right way because the 3 main parties have been in power in the last 10 years and none of them seems to have the balls to tackle the problem.
Yep the video was probably made by a racist but I viewed it and ddidn't find it funny, but take the same view as Dedworth,its a parody of whats going on in this country today.

The core issue has been going on a bit longer than that. One could argue that it goes back as far as the first world war when the Indian folk were fighting for us. etc etc

Also....

"Following the end of the Second World War, the British Nationality Act 1948 was passed to allow the 800 million subjects in the British Empire to live and work in the United Kingdom without needing a visa. These people filled a gap in the UK labour market for unskilled jobs and many people were specifically brought to the UK on ships such as the Empire Windrush."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigra...dom_since_1922

Our immigration problems are also linked to the more distant past.

[joebloggs]

I think i am right in saying the Nazis started thier hate campaign against the Jews by first making people believe it was funny to poke fun at their mannerisms etc. .

let's not forget the Nazis just didnt kill Jews, they also killed Communists, liberals, homosexuals, gypsies and many other innoncent groups.

[lastlid]

let's not forget the Nazis just didnt kill Jews, they also killed Communists, liberals, homosexuals, gypsies and many other innoncent groups.

Yes. All the more reason to be aware that modern day racists could so easily vent their anger / focus on Indians / Pakistanis / Philippinos etc etc I dont imagine they ask to see ones passport before they commit a racially aggravated offence....