Immigration Video

[lastlid]

.....BUT there is a right way and wrong way to bring about change to this...and Racism isnt the answer however humorous forum members might find it.

I do agree with that.

[bigmarco]

For the record i welcome views questioning the sanity of open door immigration and our crazy system for asylum seekers...BUT there is a right way and wrong way to bring about change to this...and Racism isnt the answer however humorous forum members might find it.

Perhaps you can enlighten us on the right way because the 3 main parties have been in power in the last 10 years and none of them seems to have the balls to tackle the problem.
Yep the video was probably made by a racist but I viewed it and ddidn't find it funny, but take the same view as Dedworth,its a parody of whats going on in this country today.

[lastlid]

Perhaps you can enlighten us on the right way because the 3 main parties have been in power in the last 10 years and none of them seems to have the balls to tackle the problem.
Yep the video was probably made by a racist but I viewed it and ddidn't find it funny, but take the same view as Dedworth,its a parody of whats going on in this country today.

The core issue has been going on a bit longer than that. One could argue that it goes back as far as the first world war when the Indian folk were fighting for us. etc etc

Also....

"Following the end of the Second World War, the British Nationality Act 1948 was passed to allow the 800 million subjects in the British Empire to live and work in the United Kingdom without needing a visa. These people filled a gap in the UK labour market for unskilled jobs and many people were specifically brought to the UK on ships such as the Empire Windrush."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigra...dom_since_1922

Our immigration problems are also linked to the more distant past.

[bigmarco]

The core issue has been going on a bit longer than that. You could argue that it goes back as far as the first world war when the Indian folk were fighting for us in WW1.

I see the problems as much more recent. My parents along with many other immigrants came to this country in the 1950's to work and build a better life for themselves.
What we have now with current immigration and asylum policies and the free movement of people within the EU is people making a decision to come to this country to make a better life for themselves AT OUR EXPENSE. It's wrong and its unsustainable if it continues as it is.

[lastlid]

I see the problems as much more recent. My parents along with many other immigrants came to this country in the 1950's to work and build a better life for themselves.
What we have now with current immigration and asylum policies and the free movement of people within the EU is people making a decision to come to this country to make a better life for themselves AT OUR EXPENSE. It's wrong and its unsustainable if it continues as it is.

Agreed. But don't agree with a racist approach. I sincerely hope that nobody adopts that (in the video) approach towards my wife. And I can see how easily such folk could relate to the first video and include her too. Such folk are not always discerning about someones origin and normally generalise and as such I see the video as potentially harmful and devisive. We on the forum know the difference between a Filipina on a Spouse visa and a scrounging chap from the Indian subcontinent but not all racists are that enlightened or care.

[joebloggs]

I think i am right in saying the Nazis started thier hate campaign against the Jews by first making people believe it was funny to poke fun at their mannerisms etc. .

let's not forget the Nazis just didnt kill Jews, they also killed Communists, liberals, homosexuals, gypsies and many other innoncent groups.

[Michael Parnham]

I agree!

[lastlid]

let's not forget the Nazis just didnt kill Jews, they also killed Communists, liberals, homosexuals, gypsies and many other innoncent groups.

Yes. All the more reason to be aware that modern day racists could so easily vent their anger / focus on Indians / Pakistanis / Philippinos etc etc I dont imagine they ask to see ones passport before they commit a racially aggravated offence....

[lastlid]

Norway racism issue again. But 10 years before Breivik. I wonder how cautious these right wing activists were when they stabbed this mixed race Norwegian? Did they ask to see his passport (or visa) first?

"Hermansen, the son of a white Norwegian woman and a Ghanaian man, was stabbed to death near his home in an Oslo suburb.

Six people connected to Norway's small neo-Nazi community have been charged with his murder."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1161853.stm

[lastlid]

John Barnes......

"Former Liverpool and England winger John Barnes claims football's anti-racism initiatives are doing little to rid the problem from wider society.

And Barnes believes that until the country tackles its underlying issues on the subject, football's measures can only be superficial.

Racism has been high on the agenda throughout the season, most notably because of high-profile race rows involving Liverpool striker Luis Suarez and Chelsea captain John Terry.

Barnes, speaking at the Soccerex forum in Manchester, said: "As far as racism in football goes, until we get rid of racism in society, it will always be in football."


""We are looking at it the wrong way round, we have to cut it from society.

"All the legislation has been passed to sanction clubs or give life bans, fining, whatever; stealing has been illegal for years and people still steal. That is not going to get rid of racism.

"Are we trying to get rid of racism, or do we just not want to hear it? What we are doing is saying we just don't want to hear it.

"You can be as racist as you like for the other six days of the week, but coming to a football match you keep your mouth shut.

"Football can do nothing to get rid of racism."

Barnes, 48, was subjected to racist taunts during his career, particularly after joining Liverpool from Watford in 1987.
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http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle884421.html