Metro Manila sinking at a fast pace

[KeithD]

...... if the earth is like we think Mars is, we know what will happen eventually....

...full of US & Russian scrap metal?

One thing the 'none believers' in the street don't understand is the number of scientists in support of man made climate change, 97%. And on top of that many of the top scientists who stood against it have now converted, such as Prof Muller.

[lastlid]

...full of US & Russian scrap metal?

One thing the 'none believers' in the street don't understand is the number of scientists in support of man made climate change, 97%. And on top of that many of the top scientists who stood against it have now converted, such as Prof Muller.

I am comfortable with the idea of man made climate change. But I also am comfortable with the earth's long history and climate change. Mars appears to have been through its life cycle and if so the geology might just tell us a bit more about the earths future. Time will tell. Ultimately it looks like, overall, in the long term, the earth is cooling.

[deeen]

Manila is sinking, as opposed to sea level rising, at least thats what the article says. There is a difference though it might not seem like that. (Can have a similar effect of course). But Manila is also low laying so if it sinks at the rate quoted then snorkel and flippers will be the order of the day.

For me, if it were true, and their scientists would know as it is perfectly possible to measure, then their ought to be a vast change in direction in the city planning....if there was ever any city planning in the first place. I hope Mr Ayala is careful where he builds next....http://business.inquirer.net/76909/p...iness-district


"The entire Metro Manila is sinking by several centimetres per year, estimated as one metre in four years, said Siringan, adding that in northern suburban Malabon, a fishing area compared to Venice, has been sinking by 10 centimetres a year."

Northern suburban Malabon has been sinking at 10 cm a year. However 1 meter in 4 years (3.281 feet to the metre) is some going.
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Nice to hear your perspective. Thanks. I did wonder about the satellite technology.

It is possible to distinguish between a rise in sea level and a sinking landmass. Not very difficult. You just described a sinking (and rising) landmass. With a rise (or fall) in sea level the changes relative to the landmass are evenly distributed laterally, if you see what I mean. I believe the report suggested both were happening in Manila and district simultaneously? " The land level of Metro Manila where there are 10 million residents, has been sinking while its sea level has been rising at a fast pace, an expert said" Thereby compounding the problem.

Yup well trying to avoid the religion of global warming, to avoid derailing the thread.

The "expert" said 4 x 10 = 100, kind of twitched my antennae
Then said sea levels rising at "almost 1cm a year", no, 3mm
Also trying to attach sea levels to a rainfall event
Just seems like an attempt to alarm and confuse

In my opinion, they need to determine the exact movement (sinking) in landmass
Add 30 cm for the sea level rise in 100 years
Allow for at least 10 years worst rainfall (the recent event, being nothing to do with sea levels)
Allow for 10 year worst storm surge (10 year high tide, 10 year low atmospheric pressure, etc)

Then there is a rational basis for making decisions.

Actually I believe a committee tried this in the past, but the results were not followed through 100%.

[lastlid]

Yup well trying to avoid the religion of global warming, to avoid derailing the thread.

The "expert" said 4 x 10 = 100, kind of twitched my antennae
Then said sea levels rising at "almost 1cm a year", no, 3mm
Also trying to attach sea levels to a rainfall event
Just seems like an attempt to alarm and confuse

In my opinion, they need to determine the exact movement (sinking) in landmass
Add 30 cm for the sea level rise in 100 years
Allow for at least 10 years worst rainfall (the recent event, being nothing to do with sea levels)
Allow for 10 year worst storm surge (10 year high tide, 10 year low atmospheric pressure, etc)

Then there is a rational basis for making decisions.

Actually I believe a committee tried this in the past, but the results were not followed through 100%.

Hehe. Funny how you call it a religion. Good analogy.

[lastlid]

The entire Metro Manila is sinking by several centimetres per year, estimated as one metre in four years, said Dr Fernando Siringan

The sea level surrounding Metro Manila is rising by almost one centimetre per year

The entire Metro Manila is sinking by several centimetres per year, estimated as one metre in four years, said Siringan, adding that in northern suburban Malabon, a fishing area compared to Venice, has been sinking by 10 centimetres a year.

Seems to all add up... Allowing for some journalistic "license" and reading between the lines...

But don't forget there are potentially 2 mechanisms going on here....rising sea level and sinking landmass, simultaneously. One possibly caused by global warming and the other for geological reasons. It kind off does add up in a way. I don't think it should come as any surprise that this is happening. Good project for a PhD student.

This in the link, seems to have been written up slightly differently. Notice this news report mentions the over extraction of groundwater as a factor. Same hypothesis, different reporting. I tend to think that the basic substance is correct and that different journalists have written it up slightly differently.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...dash-geologist

BTW I read recently that Atlantis is in the Philippines